Comments on: Free speech gets pro-lifers arrested in Maryland. http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0804/free-speech-gets-pro-lifers-arrested-in-maryland/ Just another WordPress weblog Wed, 17 Mar 2010 05:18:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Jerry Vilt http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0804/free-speech-gets-pro-lifers-arrested-in-maryland/#comment-8078 Jerry Vilt Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:08:27 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/?p=260#comment-8078 I'm perplexed: Your link in the forum...."Matters of Life and Death" - "Man. He's got the truth!!" AND above link....reply #49, both do NOT work on my computer! I think the computer "goes somewhere" but all I get is a blank screen! I've got a state of the art (3 years old) with Windows Service Pack 3 and MS Office 2007 yet something is wrong? I'm perplexed:

Your link in the forum…."Matters of Life and Death" - "Man. He's got the truth!!" AND above link….reply #49, both do NOT work on my computer! I think the computer "goes somewhere" but all I get is a blank screen! I've got a state of the art (3 years old) with Windows Service Pack 3 and MS Office 2007 yet something is wrong?

]]> By: Karen K. http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0804/free-speech-gets-pro-lifers-arrested-in-maryland/#comment-8077 Karen K. Sat, 20 Sep 2008 04:33:42 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/?p=260#comment-8077 Try again: http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=6732659166933078950&hl=en&fs=true Try again:

http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=6732659166933078950&hl=en&fs=true

]]> By: JerryN http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0804/free-speech-gets-pro-lifers-arrested-in-maryland/#comment-7761 JerryN Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:19:19 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/?p=260#comment-7761 Mr. Healy's letter (post 11) pretty much describes the type of harrassment pro-lifers have become accustomed to receiving over the years. Though the conflicting accounts of the incident make it hard to ascertain exactly what happened, it has been our experience that this fits the pattern of overly zealous authorities going too far. Does this mean we "think the police are out to get pro-lifers" as was suggested by one of our blogger friends? Of course not. It simply reflects the reality of what pro-lifers have encountered many times throughout the country and the odds are high that in the end this will be exposed as yet another example of this. It was also suggested here that the display of the Truth Tour photographs run afoul of FACE and should not be protected by the First Amendment. If there is a majority opinion (there will always be at least one person to espouse any issue) among legal scholars that supports this contention we are unaware of it. Signage is not prohibited under FACE provisions, which is not a surprise because such would be unconstitutional. If it should ever happen that displays used in the Truth Tours are prohibited it would seriously undermine one of the most effective means of political dissent. Propaganda ministers in totalitarian regimes have an ironclad grip on what the media and populace can share. That is one of the biggest differences between us and them. For example, would war protests stripped of the display of carnage be as effective in raising awareness of war's brutality? It is one thing for a country to go to war with the vast majority of its citizens blissfully unaware of the human costs to innocent non-combatants, but another thing altogether when people are confronted time and again with the harsh reality of what they are supporting. The reality of innocent unborn children being dismembered inside the womb is something many supporters of abortion do not want people to see. This is understandable because it contradicts what many of them have said for years: namely, that abortion simply removes a blob of tissue. The pictures tell a different story, that indeed these are our tiny brothers and sisters who have met a brutal end. Their lives have been denied them. Mr. Healy's letter (post 11) pretty much describes the type of harrassment pro-lifers have become accustomed to receiving over the years. Though the conflicting accounts of the incident make it hard to ascertain exactly what happened, it has been our experience that this fits the pattern of overly zealous authorities going too far. Does this mean we "think the police are out to get pro-lifers" as was suggested by one of our blogger friends? Of course not. It simply reflects the reality of what pro-lifers have encountered many times throughout the country and the odds are high that in the end this will be exposed as yet another example of this.

It was also suggested here that the display of the Truth Tour photographs run afoul of FACE and should not be protected by the First Amendment. If there is a majority opinion (there will always be at least one person to espouse any issue) among legal scholars that supports this contention we are unaware of it. Signage is not prohibited under FACE provisions, which is not a surprise because such would be unconstitutional.

If it should ever happen that displays used in the Truth Tours are prohibited it would seriously undermine one of the most effective means of political dissent. Propaganda ministers in totalitarian regimes have an ironclad grip on what the media and populace can share. That is one of the biggest differences between us and them. For example, would war protests stripped of the display of carnage be as effective in raising awareness of war's brutality? It is one thing for a country to go to war with the vast majority of its citizens blissfully unaware of the human costs to innocent non-combatants, but another thing altogether when people are confronted time and again with the harsh reality of what they are supporting.

The reality of innocent unborn children being dismembered inside the womb is something many supporters of abortion do not want people to see. This is understandable because it contradicts what many of them have said for years: namely, that abortion simply removes a blob of tissue. The pictures tell a different story, that indeed these are our tiny brothers and sisters who have met a brutal end. Their lives have been denied them.

]]> By: truthseeker http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0804/free-speech-gets-pro-lifers-arrested-in-maryland/#comment-7757 truthseeker Sat, 09 Aug 2008 05:23:43 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/?p=260#comment-7757 10-4 Matt 10-4 Matt

]]> By: Matt Yonke http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0804/free-speech-gets-pro-lifers-arrested-in-maryland/#comment-7756 Matt Yonke Sat, 09 Aug 2008 05:02:27 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/?p=260#comment-7756 Truthseeker, I didn't censor you. I just want comments to stay on topic. I think it can be safely said that I support graphic portrayals of abortion, whatever form they come in. I don't think your posts were inaccurate or attacking anyone and that's why they're still there. Don't take a sabbatical on my account, let's just all try to keep the comments on the topic of the post. If they start to stray, start a thread in the forum. No hard feelings at all here, truthseeker. Just doing my job. Truthseeker,

I didn't censor you. I just want comments to stay on topic. I think it can be safely said that I support graphic portrayals of abortion, whatever form they come in. I don't think your posts were inaccurate or attacking anyone and that's why they're still there.

Don't take a sabbatical on my account, let's just all try to keep the comments on the topic of the post. If they start to stray, start a thread in the forum.

No hard feelings at all here, truthseeker. Just doing my job.

]]> By: truthseeker http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0804/free-speech-gets-pro-lifers-arrested-in-maryland/#comment-7755 truthseeker Sat, 09 Aug 2008 04:54:18 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/?p=260#comment-7755 Matt, You are the moderator so you can control the content of posts on your blog. I just didn't expect such censorship here cause the truth tour anf FVFAPP were my first exposure to graphic pictures and descriptions. This is where I was taught the imporatnce of exposing the evil by putting it in the face of those who would rather ignore it and let the killing go on in tranquility. I am sure you are aware that the plaintiff in the case I referenced was Planned Parenthood. It is ironic that you would censor a post that played such a pivotal role in the judges decision. Don't you realize it could also play a just a pivotal role in the decision of many Fox Valley citizens who might otherwise never read the truth about what Planned Parenthood stands for and uses our tax dollars to fight for. The first time I read the description it had a profound impact on me personally. Perhaps that is why I am so driven to use it as a tool in my own struggle to stop Planned Parenthood. I'll take a self-imposed two week sabattical from posting here. Please feel free to remove this and any of my previous posts that you believe were off topic, too graphic, or not helpful to your struggle against Planned Parenthood. I will take no offense to it. God love you. ts Matt,
You are the moderator so you can control the content of posts on your blog. I just didn't expect such censorship here cause the truth tour anf FVFAPP were my first exposure to graphic pictures and descriptions. This is where I was taught the imporatnce of exposing the evil by putting it in the face of those who would rather ignore it and let the killing go on in tranquility. I am sure you are aware that the plaintiff in the case I referenced was Planned Parenthood. It is ironic that you would censor a post that played such a pivotal role in the judges decision. Don't you realize it could also play a just a pivotal role in the decision of many Fox Valley citizens who might otherwise never read the truth about what Planned Parenthood stands for and uses our tax dollars to fight for. The first time I read the description it had a profound impact on me personally.
Perhaps that is why I am so driven to use it as a tool in my own struggle to stop Planned Parenthood. I'll take a self-imposed two week sabattical from posting here. Please feel free to remove this and any of my previous posts that you believe were off topic, too graphic, or not helpful to your struggle against Planned Parenthood. I will take no offense to it. God love you. ts

]]> By: KATHY http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0804/free-speech-gets-pro-lifers-arrested-in-maryland/#comment-7754 KATHY Fri, 08 Aug 2008 23:54:12 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/?p=260#comment-7754 I don't understand why they were arrested if they were protesting peacfully which it appears they were,I'm sure they weren't waving guns around. I don't think anyone is wrong I just don't happen to agree. I don't understand why they were arrested if they were protesting peacfully which it appears they were,I'm sure they weren't waving guns around. I don't think anyone is wrong I just don't happen to agree.

]]> By: mattyonke http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0804/free-speech-gets-pro-lifers-arrested-in-maryland/#comment-7753 mattyonke Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:16:58 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/?p=260#comment-7753 Truthseeker, This conversation is over. If you don't want to talk about arrests in Maryland, take it somewhere else. Matt Truthseeker,

This conversation is over. If you don't want to talk about arrests in Maryland, take it somewhere else.

Matt

]]> By: Roger http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0804/free-speech-gets-pro-lifers-arrested-in-maryland/#comment-7752 Roger Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:17:44 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/?p=260#comment-7752 truthseeker, How we deliver the truth is just as important as the truth itself! (Eph. 4:15) God Bless, Roger truthseeker,

How we deliver the truth is just as important as the truth itself! (Eph. 4:15)

God Bless,
Roger

]]> By: truthseeker http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0804/free-speech-gets-pro-lifers-arrested-in-maryland/#comment-7751 truthseeker Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:08:24 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/?p=260#comment-7751 AuroraResident, I for one am willing to categorically say that anybody who supports those types of behaviours has the mindset of a sociopathic killer. Are you willing to say the same about Planned Parenthood and the rest who supported people's "right" to PBA? A simple yes or no "ANSWER" to the question will suffice. AuroraResident, I for one am willing to categorically say that anybody who supports those types of behaviours has the mindset of a sociopathic killer. Are you willing to say the same about Planned Parenthood and the rest who supported people's "right" to PBA? A simple yes or no "ANSWER" to the question will suffice.

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