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		<title>By: Admin</title>
		<link>http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0617/pps-teenwire-at-batavia-library/#comment-7321</link>
		<dc:creator>Admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This thread is now closed.  Take the off-topics subjects to the &lt;a href="http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=8&#038;sid=03944091044b04e34fb1d07f0a7ee1ff" rel="nofollow"&gt;Forum&lt;/a&gt;. 

For specific comments regarding the Batavia Library story, use &lt;a href="http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0708/batavia-library-debate-heats-up/" rel="nofollow"&gt;this  blog entry&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thread is now closed.  Take the off-topics subjects to the <a href="http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=8&#038;sid=03944091044b04e34fb1d07f0a7ee1ff" rel="nofollow">Forum</a>. </p>
<p>For specific comments regarding the Batavia Library story, use <a href="http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0708/batavia-library-debate-heats-up/" rel="nofollow">this  blog entry</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0617/pps-teenwire-at-batavia-library/#comment-7319</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn't know that I had to assume that you and Professor agree on everything.  The reason I ask is that a lot of legislation coming down has been written to mandate actions that medical professionals find immoral.  See the Freedom of Choice Act (fortunately, it's just a bill sitting on Capitol Hill), as well as the mandate to pharmacists that they be involved in dispensing birth control and/or the morning after pill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#039;t know that I had to assume that you and Professor agree on everything.  The reason I ask is that a lot of legislation coming down has been written to mandate actions that medical professionals find immoral.  See the Freedom of Choice Act (fortunately, it&#039;s just a bill sitting on Capitol Hill), as well as the mandate to pharmacists that they be involved in dispensing birth control and/or the morning after pill.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen K.</title>
		<link>http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0617/pps-teenwire-at-batavia-library/#comment-7318</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sex Is For Marriage
God created sex. As the Creator, He knows more about His design than anyone. 

GENESIS 1:31 NKJ 
31 Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day. 

GENESIS 5:2 NKJ 
2 He created them male and female, and blessed them and called them Mankind in the day they were created. 

GENESIS 2:24 NKJ 
24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh. 

The instructions God gave in the Bible are for our good. One is that sex should occur exclusively in marriage between a husband and a wife. 

God is not trying to keep us from happiness, but to protect us from harm and unhappiness. 

God is not against sex, only the abuse of sex -- which always has harmful consequences. 

Any form of sexual activity outside the bonds of marriage is wrong, and dangerous. Human history is filled with examples of the disease, heartache, and misery caused by it. 


God Is Not Against Happiness
JOHN 10:10 NKJ 
10 "The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly. 

PROVERBS 14:12 NKJ 
12 There is a way which seems right to a man, but its end is the way of death. 

JEREMIAH 29:11 NKJ 
11 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the Lord, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope. 

MATTHEW 7:13-14 NKJ 
13 "Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 
14 "Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it. 

2 PETER 2:19 NKJ 
19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage. 


Consequences
1 JOHN 1:9 NKJ 
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 

JOHN 8:3-4 NKJ 
3 Then the scribes and Pharisees brought to Him a woman caught in adultery. And when they had set her in the midst, 
4 they said to Him, "Teacher, this woman was caught in adultery, in the very act. 

We can receive forgiveness for our sins, but there are still consequences. 

Venereal disease, unwanted pregnancies, broken hearts, and inner guilt are just some of the possible consequences of sexual sin. It is always best to follow God's instructions! 

Just because you seem to have escaped any bad consequences so far, does not mean you will always. God has been merciful to you, and given you time to repent -- to change. Don't despise God's merciful patience. 

REVELATION 2:20-22 NKJ 
20 "Nevertheless I have a few things against you, because you allow that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, to teach and beguile My servants to commit sexual immorality and to eat things sacrificed to idols. 
21 "And I gave her time to repent of her sexual immorality, and she did not repent. 
22 "Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their deeds. 
Believers.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sex Is For Marriage<br />
God created sex. As the Creator, He knows more about His design than anyone. </p>
<p>GENESIS 1:31 NKJ<br />
31 Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day. </p>
<p>GENESIS 5:2 NKJ<br />
2 He created them male and female, and blessed them and called them Mankind in the day they were created. </p>
<p>GENESIS 2:24 NKJ<br />
24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh. </p>
<p>The instructions God gave in the Bible are for our good. One is that sex should occur exclusively in marriage between a husband and a wife. </p>
<p>God is not trying to keep us from happiness, but to protect us from harm and unhappiness. </p>
<p>God is not against sex, only the abuse of sex &#8212; which always has harmful consequences. </p>
<p>Any form of sexual activity outside the bonds of marriage is wrong, and dangerous. Human history is filled with examples of the disease, heartache, and misery caused by it. </p>
<p>God Is Not Against Happiness<br />
JOHN 10:10 NKJ<br />
10 &#034;The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly. </p>
<p>PROVERBS 14:12 NKJ<br />
12 There is a way which seems right to a man, but its end is the way of death. </p>
<p>JEREMIAH 29:11 NKJ<br />
11 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the Lord, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope. </p>
<p>MATTHEW 7:13-14 NKJ<br />
13 &#034;Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it.<br />
14 &#034;Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it. </p>
<p>2 PETER 2:19 NKJ<br />
19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage. </p>
<p>Consequences<br />
1 JOHN 1:9 NKJ<br />
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. </p>
<p>JOHN 8:3-4 NKJ<br />
3 Then the scribes and Pharisees brought to Him a woman caught in adultery. And when they had set her in the midst,<br />
4 they said to Him, &#034;Teacher, this woman was caught in adultery, in the very act. </p>
<p>We can receive forgiveness for our sins, but there are still consequences. </p>
<p>Venereal disease, unwanted pregnancies, broken hearts, and inner guilt are just some of the possible consequences of sexual sin. It is always best to follow God&#039;s instructions! </p>
<p>Just because you seem to have escaped any bad consequences so far, does not mean you will always. God has been merciful to you, and given you time to repent &#8212; to change. Don&#039;t despise God&#039;s merciful patience. </p>
<p>REVELATION 2:20-22 NKJ<br />
20 &#034;Nevertheless I have a few things against you, because you allow that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, to teach and beguile My servants to commit sexual immorality and to eat things sacrificed to idols.<br />
21 &#034;And I gave her time to repent of her sexual immorality, and she did not repent.<br />
22 &#034;Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their deeds.<br />
Believers.org</p>
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		<title>By: Student</title>
		<link>http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0617/pps-teenwire-at-batavia-library/#comment-7317</link>
		<dc:creator>Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Does this slight inconvenience mean that the state or federal government should mandate that doctors, hospitals and other medical providers should be mandated to assist in what they consider unethical conduct?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Please see comment #393 where Professor specifically stated:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;I make no claim about whether the doctor could refuse or not. For such elective surgery, I think he had the right to do so. I simply wish I had had more options at the time.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Does this clarify things?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Does this slight inconvenience mean that the state or federal government should mandate that doctors, hospitals and other medical providers should be mandated to assist in what they consider unethical conduct?</p></blockquote>
<p>Please see comment #393 where Professor specifically stated:</p>
<blockquote><p><b>I make no claim about whether the doctor could refuse or not. For such elective surgery, I think he had the right to do so. I simply wish I had had more options at the time.</b></p></blockquote>
<p>Does this clarify things?</p>
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		<title>By: Student</title>
		<link>http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0617/pps-teenwire-at-batavia-library/#comment-7316</link>
		<dc:creator>Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You so enjoy twisting what I say.

THIS IS WHAT I SEE SEX AS:

A Definition of Marriage &lt;/blockquote&gt;

You make absolutely no sense whatsoever.  You state "THIS IS WHAT I SEE SEX AS" and then go on to give "A Definition of Marriage."  Sorry, sex and marriage are different things.

According to Webster's Dictionary:

MARRIAGE = the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc. 

SEX = to engage in sexual intercourse</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You so enjoy twisting what I say.</p>
<p>THIS IS WHAT I SEE SEX AS:</p>
<p>A Definition of Marriage </p></blockquote>
<p>You make absolutely no sense whatsoever.  You state &#034;THIS IS WHAT I SEE SEX AS&#034; and then go on to give &#034;A Definition of Marriage.&#034;  Sorry, sex and marriage are different things.</p>
<p>According to Webster&#039;s Dictionary:</p>
<p>MARRIAGE = the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc. </p>
<p>SEX = to engage in sexual intercourse</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0617/pps-teenwire-at-batavia-library/#comment-7315</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean that the doctor told you he/she was hesitant to do it, but then you had it done either by this or another doctor shortly thereafter?  Does this slight inconvenience mean that the state or federal government should mandate that doctors, hospitals and other medical providers should be mandated to assist in what they consider unethical conduct?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean that the doctor told you he/she was hesitant to do it, but then you had it done either by this or another doctor shortly thereafter?  Does this slight inconvenience mean that the state or federal government should mandate that doctors, hospitals and other medical providers should be mandated to assist in what they consider unethical conduct?</p>
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		<title>By: Student</title>
		<link>http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0617/pps-teenwire-at-batavia-library/#comment-7314</link>
		<dc:creator>Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I can hear it coming, "I'm being responsible by having a vasectomy" What is responsible about that, it just makes it easier on your conscience to continue using them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And if he hadn't had a vasectomy you'd be complaining that he wasn't being responsible.  You are quite a piece of work!  Who are you to judge whether he is using someone or not?  Wouldn't that determination get to be made by his partner?  In fact, what does it mean to you to "use" someone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I can hear it coming, &#034;I&#039;m being responsible by having a vasectomy&#034; What is responsible about that, it just makes it easier on your conscience to continue using them.</p></blockquote>
<p>And if he hadn&#039;t had a vasectomy you&#039;d be complaining that he wasn&#039;t being responsible.  You are quite a piece of work!  Who are you to judge whether he is using someone or not?  Wouldn&#039;t that determination get to be made by his partner?  In fact, what does it mean to you to &#034;use&#034; someone?</p>
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		<title>By: Student</title>
		<link>http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0617/pps-teenwire-at-batavia-library/#comment-7313</link>
		<dc:creator>Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That is such BS. You can't get vasectomies or tubal ligations done at Catholic hospitals, but go to Rush/Copley or any secular hospital and you can get it done. Complaints like this are intended to make the case that because of minor inconveniences, all doctors, hospitals, and pharmacists cannot choose to follow their conscience when it comes to providing health care.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I can tell you, from the female perspective, that finding a physician to do a tubal ligation was difficult -- and I was living in the City of Chicago.  I was told that I was too young (age 34) AND that I might want more children (I already had two).  I was not being seen at a Catholic hospital -- my doctor was Jewish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That is such BS. You can&#039;t get vasectomies or tubal ligations done at Catholic hospitals, but go to Rush/Copley or any secular hospital and you can get it done. Complaints like this are intended to make the case that because of minor inconveniences, all doctors, hospitals, and pharmacists cannot choose to follow their conscience when it comes to providing health care.</p></blockquote>
<p>I can tell you, from the female perspective, that finding a physician to do a tubal ligation was difficult &#8212; and I was living in the City of Chicago.  I was told that I was too young (age 34) AND that I might want more children (I already had two).  I was not being seen at a Catholic hospital &#8212; my doctor was Jewish.</p>
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		<title>By: Student</title>
		<link>http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0617/pps-teenwire-at-batavia-library/#comment-7312</link>
		<dc:creator>Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But I blog with a LOT of young girls who do&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And WHY are you blogging with "a LOT of young girls" on the internet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But I blog with a LOT of young girls who do</p></blockquote>
<p>And WHY are you blogging with &#034;a LOT of young girls&#034; on the internet?</p>
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		<title>By: Student</title>
		<link>http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0617/pps-teenwire-at-batavia-library/#comment-7311</link>
		<dc:creator>Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#60;Not to be vulgar, but are you referring to sodomy? Cause that is scientifically PROVEN to be extremely high risk behaviour.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, Truthseeker, I am.  What you seem incapable of realizing is the fact that two healthy individuals, in a committed monogamous realtionship, who are disease free CANNOT infect each other with an STI.  Perhaps you know of some biological process through which this is incorrect?  If so, please enlighten me.  If not, perhaps you can keep your nonjudgmental, xtian bigotry to yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&lt;Not to be vulgar, but are you referring to sodomy? Cause that is scientifically PROVEN to be extremely high risk behaviour.</p>
<p>Yes, Truthseeker, I am.  What you seem incapable of realizing is the fact that two healthy individuals, in a committed monogamous realtionship, who are disease free CANNOT infect each other with an STI.  Perhaps you know of some biological process through which this is incorrect?  If so, please enlighten me.  If not, perhaps you can keep your nonjudgmental, xtian bigotry to yourself.</p>
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