Fox Valley Families Against Planned Parenthood

Pro-lifers spread the truth at Batavia High School

Posted by Matt Yonke, June 5th, 2008

police car outside of batavia high schoolYesterday afternoon, the last day of school at Batavia High School, a group of local pro-lifers brought the truth about abortion to students from 2:30 to 3:00 when school let out. Eight activists, many of them high school students including Nate and Sam Scheidler and Dolores and Patty Weber, held large signs with pictures of aborted babies in hopes of making the gravity of the abortion holocaust real to area teens.

The group set up their display on the public sidewalk by the driveway entrance to the school on Batavia's Main Street. No sooner had they set up their display than security guards from the school told them they would have to move across the street or they would call the police. Undeterred by the threats of the guards, activists stood their ground.

Despite the presence of adult organizers, the mounting crowd of security guards and eventually the school's principal all chose to focus their efforts on intimidating Nate Scheidler. Nate was told, absurdly, that the sidewalk in front of the school was not public property. Nate called the guards' attention to the fact that they were on public property and the 1st amendment guaranteed their right to be there.

Police arrived on the scene and attempted to make the pro-lifers leave, agreeing with the school's principal that he didn't believe the public sidewalk in front of a publicly funded school to be public property. Police insisted that a permit was required for any protest in Batavia. Nate and other pro-lifers reminded the officers that they were only displaying signs protected by the 1st amendment on public property.

Police continued their attempts to silence the truth, but the stalwart pro-lifers stood their ground. Pro-lifer Sylvia Keppel even got a promise from the police officer that, if she could prove to him that they had a right to be there, he would personally see to it that the whole police department was trained to respect the rights of pro-life protesters. Sylvia is currently compiling her case to bring back to the officer.

Activists stayed the full half hour they had planned to stay and hundreds of teens saw the true face of abortion. Once again, pro-lifers are standing on the front lines in the battle to protect our first amendment rights. Praise God for our courageous pro-life teens and the adults that helped them. Special thanks to Dolores Weber for the picture of the event!

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30 Responses to “Pro-lifers spread the truth at Batavia High School”

  1. Karen K. says:

    God Bless all the brave young pro-life activists!! The Holy Spirit is moving all over this land! "Put on the armor of God!" The Holy Bible
    Keep steadfast and do not be intimidated by the evil one! Tell the truth, show the truth and the truth will speak for itself. People enter into Planned Parenthood many times unaware of what really goes on in there. There was this one young mother whose appointment had been messed up somehow by Planned Parenthood (thank God) and as she was getting in her car I was able to talk with her, and she said, “They do abortions here? Right here in this building?!!" I told her, yes and she was so glad I told her. See, to many people, hard as it may seem, they think Planned Parenthood is a fine place. Well, a fine medical facility is a place where lives are preserved, doctors save their patients, not kill them. There should be a sign outside of Planned Parenthood that reads:
    "Don't think there are no crocodiles because the water is calm."
    Malayan Proverb

    June 5th, 2008 at 10:02 pm
  2. Brian says:

    I have to say that I disagree with the decision to do this. Let the kids enjoy their last day of school without distrubing imagery. I don't know whether or not this was a Pro-Life Action League/Face the Truth project or not (it's not clear from the post). There is a time and a place for protest, and I don't understand why it had to be at a high school on the last day of school.

    That said, you are probably right that a sidewalk in front of a high school is a public forum and the protestors probably had a right to do what they were doing. But just because speech is protected doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.

    June 5th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
  3. H says:

    I agree with Brian. I am as Pro-Life as anyone, having spent time in jail for blocking access to clinic doors. However, not too long ago, I was driving my wife home from the hospital. We had been pregnant and were anxious to welcome another child into our family. However, she miscarried at home. It was already a very difficult day as we drove past 4X8 foot posters of aborted children. A photo of one dismembered baby was 8-weeks…the same age as our child. This made an already horrible day a tiny bit worse. I believe in what you are doing, but I question the methods. Sorry to dump all that out…I wasn't planning to. I just wanted to tell everyone about http://abortionchangesyou.com/ don't know much about the site, but it looked cool. Blessings on each of you. -H

    June 6th, 2008 at 9:36 am
  4. Matt Yonke says:

    Brian and H,

    Thanks for your input (and H, thanks for that link. That's a great looking site that's got some great resources!)

    This was not a project of the Pro-Life Action League or Fox Valley Families, just some local pro-lifers standing up for life on their own.

    While I sympathize, Brian, with your desire to let the kids enjoy their last day of school, it seems to me this may have been an excellent time to catch them. They've now got an entire summer to think about what they saw on their last day of school.

    That age is such a crucial time to shape kids opinions on life issues and an image like that can have an effect even more profound than any argument or sex-ed presentation. They may have seen something upsetting on their last day of school, but they will never forget what an aborted baby looks like.

    H,

    You and your wife have my sympathies and prayers. I hope you have had, or will have, the opportunity to welcome another child into your family since your wife's miscarriage.

    While I do understand that it can be very difficult for women who have had miscarriages (perhaps worse for post-abortive women) to see the graphic images, I cannot say enough about how unbelievably effective they are in fighting abortion. They may be the single best weapon we have.

    I have personally seen women decide not to have abortions because of seeing those signs and seen countless people say they had no idea that abortion looked like that before they saw the signs and could never support it with that knowledge.

    The graphic pictures have often been compared to images of the concentration camps during the Nazi slaughter of WWII. The German public simply didn't believe what was going on until they saw pictures. It certainly made them uncomfortable, but it spurred them to action.

    In the same way, until people see the real face of abortion and get the "just a blob of tissue" myth out of their heads, they will have no reason to oppose abortion. People whose feelings are hurt or children who are scared by the signs (which is much rarer than some of our opponents would have you believe) are all unfortunate collateral damages, but the lives saved and the hearts that are changed by these signs make it an unfortunate necessity.

    Hope that helps make our perspective a little more clear. For more, you can visit the Pro-Life Action League's website.

    God bless,

    Matt

    June 6th, 2008 at 10:14 am
  5. Julie says:

    My thought on this matter is that teenagers have A LOT of free time in the summer. The possiblity of spending that time with a boyfriend or girlfriend is even greater than it would be during the school year when they have homework to complete, tests to study for, etc. They also have sporting events and jobs to go to after school on top of that homework.

    During the summer, teenagers have an even greater chance to make a choice of going to Planned Parenthood for contraception, the morning after pill, or an abortion due to an unplanned pregnancy.

    I think their timing was perfect. It will have a much greater impact on them to see these photos on the last day of school before summer break when they are thinking about the things they want to do this summer. These pro-lifers, most of which were teenagers, most likely had an insight into what there fellow classmates have on their minds for the summer.

    It is my hope that their efforts and brave stance will change the life for at least one teenager!!!! I think they and other pro-lifers across the country should make this an annual event. In fact, Prom Day and other teenage events would also be another time to do something similiar to help them think twice about their actions. Bravo!

    I believe they cared more about their fellow peers then most people today will ever know. They were showing true love for their fellow man.

    June 6th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
  6. H says:

    Hi Matt,

    Thanks much for your reply. My wife has since been diagnosed with Cancer. She has been treated with radiation and her prognosis looks very good although we have been advised not to attempt to get pregnant for at least the next six months. (This has certainly upset our "family planning".) However, we look to Scripture's example of Elisabeth's and too believe "Nothing is impossible with God." We would like more children, but are content with the family we have been given.

    I have met many, many pro-lifers and I truly believe the overwhelming majority are motivated by love. It seems what Christians have best to offer is the love of Christ. However, when I drive down the street and observe a rally, I don't feel that love. The "shotgun approach" of flashing horrid images to everyone with the hopes of randomly hitting your target seems to circumvent a dependency on divine appointments which guide those who need the truth to you. Please bear in mind…I offer no solutions…only observations. I may be completely off the mark, I have no way of knowing. Blessings on each of you. -H

    June 6th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
  7. Jerry says:

    I certainly commend the young activists and their resolve. The question of using images of aborted babies is never going to be accepted by everyone in the pro-life cause. Having been around during the Vietnam era anti-war protests, some of the most wrenching imagery was that of the dead or wounded. Those who employed the use of those images brought everyone around to the awful reality and savagery of war.

    So too with the pro-life movement. The reality of abortion in terms of what actually takes place during the procedure is covered up by the major media. My bet is that even in this information overload age the majority of those kids leaving school that day have never seen what happens when a tiny human being is destroyed in the womb. And they need to know because abortion is put out there as the solution should they have a "problem."

    It is precisely because there has been a failure on the part of society to honestly and openly discuss what exactly abortion is that measures such as those used by the protesters have become necessary.

    June 6th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
  8. Brian says:

    I understand the use of the images. I don't like them personally, but I understand that they can be effective in showing the truth about abortion, especially for late term. But I still say there is a time and a place. The corner of New York and Oakhurst is more appropriate than Batavia High School on the last day of school. If it's always and only about truth, then it would be appropriate everywhere. Why not at a family picnic?

    My belief is that this type of event brings discredit and disdain from even those who generally sympathize with the pro-life movement. It's not the same degree as the "God hates f–s" people at military funerals, but if I picked up my kid at high school and saw those things, I'd ask "why are you here?" The "truth tours" generally give people a heads up if they wish to avoid the pictures. That option wasn't given to the kids trying to celebrate the end of the school year.

    June 6th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
  9. H says:

    Hey Brian,

    "The "truth tours" generally give people a heads up if they wish to avoid the pictures."

    That's not true…If you are driving down the street, there is no way to shield your eyes. It would also be impossible for me to prevent preschoolers from seeing these apart from not driving down the street.

    For the record, I'm glad the issue is being raised. I'm just not sure this is the best way to do it. Let's be honest with ourselves, there is no way to drive past 50+ 4X8 foot photos and not notice them.

    Blessings on each of you. -H

    June 6th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
  10. Matt Yonke says:

    H,

    What Brian is referring to when the Pro-Life Action League does our official Face the Truth Tours. When we do that (and when we use graphic signs at our protests) we put warning signs (WARNING: GRAPHIC ABORTION PHOTOS AHEAD) far back enough for people to take an alternate route if they don't want to see them.

    I agree, it's hard to ignore them without the warning signs, but that's pretty much the point. Everywhere else in American culture you can avert your eyes from the fate of these babies. Once in a while (and let's be honest, it's not as if people see these images every day) people do need to be reminded.

    God Bless,

    Matt

    June 7th, 2008 at 10:17 am
  11. Mike says:

    The Case For The Use of Graphic Pictures: The Emmett Till Story by Jill Stanek

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/947446/posts

    Mike

    June 7th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
  12. Generations for Life » Blog Archive » Showing the Truth says:

    [...] Then, the police came, and they too, like the school's principal, didn't believe the public sidewalk in front of a public school was public property. After more back and forth, the pro-life teens stood their ground, and stayed as long as they had planned to. (My co-worker Matt Yonke has more details on the Families Against Planned Parenthood blog.) [...]

    June 10th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
  13. Mike says:

    There are over 1200+ Detrimental Effects of Abortion…

    http://www.unfairchoice.info/unsafe.htm

    Can you name me 3 other types of surgery performed exclusively on women which is "legal" and has over 1200 detrimental effects on them?

    Not to mention each abortion kills a baby in the mother's womb.

    Mike

    June 10th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
  14. Amy says:

    I think what they did was great. I live close to the high school and while my children to not attend the public school they have many friends and neighbors that do. With what goes on there and with what these teens accept as okay this protest was just a drop in the bucket to what needs to be done. Also you can't tell me the police and the school principle didn't know that the sidewalk is public. I can't tell you how many of the teens over the years stop there to light up because it is no long school property. (use to do it myself back in the day.)

    June 14th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
  15. Student says:

    Amy,
    Would you feel the same way if I felt your kids needed some good sex information and paraded up and down in front of your house with large graphic photos….perhaps something along the lines of "Oral Sex Doesn't Cause Pregnancy?" We could have a graphic of a woman fellating a man (of course, we'll grey out the genitals to stay within the bounds of the law). I'd be within my legal rights, however, I'd still say it would certainly fall into the "highly inappropriate" category.

    June 16th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
  16. Elizabeth says:

    Well well well … having read all those wonderful comments, I have to commend the Scheidler & the Dolores kids for standing up for Life and God's Law. You did the right thing and I agree with Amy … these kids see so many graphic images on TV and internet that these pictures of aborted babies probably didn't even phase them … if anything most likely only annoyed them. It's sad, truly.

    And as for public property - I love it! What else can we expect from these brainwashed liberals …???
    The media has done a fine job in brainwashing this whole society. How remarkably true came the words of the Germans I used to live with in Germany : "The Americans are stupid … they are slaves of their own freedom"
    Maybe these guys were right when they were saying such things about Americans back in the 80s. Look at us now.

    We cannot lose hope, though. Christ is our HOPE. And we have to go on … and "be not afraid"!!! Witness to Christ, witness to the Truth. God is Eternal and God is Love. We have to live that every day. For the sake of the few righteous ones … God can save the nation.

    May God keep us all in His loving care.

    June 23rd, 2008 at 11:16 pm
  17. truthseeker says:

    I was on the Truth Tour today.

    When my two and half year old girl asked what the signs were pictures of I told her they were babies that were hurt and we are trying to get people to help them.

    My eight year old girl already has a real understanding how awful abortion is and feeling a genuine desire to change the hearts of people who choose death. Sometimes people would drive by and flip us the finger and I would tell her that those people are probably feeling the hurt of bad choices they made in the past so they are striking out.

    My thirteen year old boy is not even phased by the pictures. He is very mature for his age. I had mentioned the Truth Tour to him last week and today it was actually his encouragement that got me off the couch when he asked me to take him out on the Truth Tour.

    High school is definely an undeniably appropriate age at which children should be educated as to what abortion is. It wouldn't be fair t them and doesn't make sense not to inform them. I find it very ironic that the same people who want these children to be taught bthat they can get birth control in high school and be taught that they have access to abortion if the birth control fails; are the same people who don't want them educated about what an abortion really is. They are laughable in their "disgust". And they want to "educate" our children that high dose hormone cocktails are "healthy" for them. They actually want to pass laws that make it legal for them to push steroids on our children without parental consent. And I was watching baseball this weekend they had commercials about how steroids should be banned for athletes in baseball cause they are not healthy. O.K.
    Lets get this straight. Steroids are unhealthy for adult athletes but healthy for young girls to take on a consistent basis during their adolescense and through adulthood. What is wrong with this picture. Let's keep the truth about abortion in the schools, and keep Planned Parenthood and the drug pushers out of the high-schools so that don't "educate" our children into the unhealthy practice of a lifetime taking high-dosages of steroids.

    July 13th, 2008 at 2:51 am
  18. kaylie says:

    I think the fact of the matter is it is a womens choice to decide if they want to go through with it or not. Everyone will go against that untill they are in a sitution that an abortion maybe a possibilty for them. I had one a few years ago and Yes go ahead say it the famous qoute "well you shoulda kept your legs closed" well yes i should of but I learned from my mistake and got to have a second chance at life to finish wat I wanted to do to get the money to have a baby. So can you honestly say you all have never had a huge mistake got it taking care of and then was a bit relieved you got to start over.. N besides all of you make your own choices but you dont see protesters standing out side your doors disaproving of your choise. It all boils down to this MIND YOUR OWN BUISNESS AND RAISE YOUR KIDS AND STOP WORRING ABOUT OTHER PEOPLES BELIEFES. I GOT TAUGHT AT THE COLLEGE I ATTEND THAT THE PEOPLE SO INVOLED IN OTHER PEOPLES LIFES ARE THE MOST MISARABLE PEOPLE YOU'LL EVER MET THAT THEY ARE SO UNSATISFIED WITH THERE LIFE

    July 25th, 2008 at 11:28 am
  19. Roger says:

    kaylie,

    … and Yes go ahead say it the famous qoute "well you shoulda kept your legs closed"

    I would say that I'm sorry that you had to go through that. It must have been difficult.

    As far as "MIND OUR OWN BUSINESS"… that's very difficult to do when an injustice is going on, or when someone is in real trouble. That's how many feel about abortion. It is a injustice to the unborn and to the mother as well, and we want to help.

    You wouldn't say to a person who steps up to a choking person to perform the Heimlich maneuver, "mind your own business". Pro-life people see a choking person, pro-choice/abortion people see it as an optional way to eat when you can't swallow food the regular way.

    I GOT TAUGHT AT THE COLLEGE I ATTEND THAT THE PEOPLE SO INVOLED IN OTHER PEOPLES LIFES ARE THE MOST MISARABLE PEOPLE YOU'LL EVER MET THAT THEY ARE SO UNSATISFIED WITH THERE LIFE

    I would think almost the opposite is true. It's usually the self-center people who are more miserable. People who give of themselves freely to others usually find much more joy and happiness with life.

    Look at Mother Teresa. She was very involved in the lives of other people.

    I would agree if you are talking about people overly concerned with the doings of others, in a self-centered, "busybody" way. Very difficult to be happy / content with oneself then.

    Ok, enough of my philosophy on life for now! :-)

    God Bless,
    Roger

    July 25th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
  20. Karen K. says:

    Mind Your Own Business?

    Groups of pro-life people who publicly demonstrate against abortion receive various reactions, both positive and negative, from passersby. One such reaction is the advice, "Go home and mind your own business!"

    "Mind your own business." That's interesting advice, isn't it? Actually, it could make life a whole lot easier. We could go home and forget about people who are homeless and starving. That's their problem, we might say. We only need to mind our own business. We could forget about the unemployed, the depressed, the lonely. After all, we're only minding our own business. We would no longer have to worry about drug dealers or child abusers, or about vandals and arsonists. We wouldn't have to think about people with AIDS or about nations at war. . . We could forget about it all, and just mind our own business.

    Actually, it's a very old piece of advice. After Cain killed his brother Abel, at the beginning of human history, he said to God, "Am I my brother's keeper?"

    The answer to that is YES. We Christians have a nobler business to mind than "our own." Wherever and however our brothers and sisters are suffering, that is OUR business. Today, our most defenseless brothers and sisters are babies in the womb, and some 4400 of then a day are being snuffed out by abortion. Their mothers are victims, too, because they aren't being given the help they need to care for their children. Abortion also harms them, physically, psychologically, and spiritually.

    If we love the babies, and if we love the mothers, then this IS our business. Maybe it's time to stop listening to the easy advice of Cain, and to follow instead the challenging teaching of Christ, "This is my Commandment: love one another as I have loved you." It's time to say a strong "NO" to abortion, and a "YES" to the real needs of both mother and child. This is the business of the Christian. This is the business of love. By Fr. Frank A. Pavone

    July 25th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
  21. Karen K. says:

    kaylie said:I GOT TAUGHT AT THE COLLEGE I ATTEND THAT THE PEOPLE SO INVOLED IN OTHER PEOPLES LIFES ARE THE MOST MISARABLE PEOPLE YOU'LL EVER MET THAT THEY ARE SO UNSATISFIED WITH THERE LIFE

    Roger said,
    I would think almost the opposite is true. It's usually the self-center people who are more miserable. People who give of themselves freely to others usually find much more joy and happiness with life.

    karen says:
    I most definitely agree with Roger. In fact it is just plain old common sense, something I must add is greatly missing today!
    I remember reading a study that was done on the elderly who suffered from depression. When they were given the opportunity to do work that helped others in some fashion, their depression ceased. I know from my own life, that I am happiest when I am doing something greater than myself. Something that is not directly for my benefit, but for the benefit of others. Whether it be helping my family, neighbors, bringing food to the needy, or helping to save lives at an abortion clinic, it is a great source of joy, and both parties benefit!

    July 25th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
  22. Karen K. says:

    I bet you'd be hard pressed to find a mother who because of a kind person offering her real help and the truth of her baby she carried inside her, regretting the fact she allowed her baby to live. It is usually the other way around, they regret ending their child's life through abortion. Nothing can replace that child. Sometimes the things we think are the worse things that could ever happen to us, end up just fine. Sometimes we need to give it time, and with love everything usually works out pretty well. I have experienced this with my own daughter's pregnancy. It seemed like the worst thing that could ever happen, but with love we got through alot, and then rejoiced in the loving face of our little Shawn. What a little sweetheart, dimples and all. And if my daughter did not keep him, someone else would have been fortunate enough to love him. (though she never considered adoption, and if she had, "grandma” and “grandpa” would have made sure we were at the top of the list!!) Things aren't perfect by any means, but everything seems more bearable knowing we have little Shawn! The older I get the more I realize how we need to give ourselves time, not to make rash decisions, the old saying "sleep on it" is a good idea. Most of all pray about our difficulties, because no problem is bigger than God!
    Sometimes, don't things seem better in the morning?

    My daughter has us as her love and support, and I know there are other girls who are in the same boat as my daughter was, and many do not have any love and support. THAT IS WHY WE ARE THERE! We are their support and love that they desperately need! And most importantly, we are the "little one's", (like little Shawny) only hope for life!

    July 25th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
  23. truthseeker says:

    kaylie,
    it is good to hear you are practicibg abstunence until you are`ready for the responsibility of a child.

    July 27th, 2008 at 11:21 pm
  24. kaylie says:

    Ok Im back
    To Karen: hi, well you say that you go out and help lil girls with support but were are you at when the end of the day comes and your not there… were are you at when lil girls who didnt get that second chance and raising there babies in the "ghetto" and have no means of support ya there is wic and government help but why live off the government when you can have that second chance and next time make it better..and ive seen plenty of people going around and who have that help who still dont have money for diapers b/c they dont have a babies dad around… LIKE I SAID EVERYONE MAKES MISTAKES….

    To start off I am by no means depressed I fill blessed b/c I got that second chance I dont know were I would be at if I didnt go through with my abortion… Dont think I dont have morals b/c I do My ethics I fill strong on the subjects and I have my opion like every one of you do. So dont down me and try to make me fill like what I did was a mistake B/c it wont happen and I fill truly sorry for the girls you try to influence thinkin that they have help b/c like I said were are you at, at the end up the day…. you aint helping you dont know there sitution so dont judge..
    I am very happy and proud to say when I finish school I plan on working at an abortion clinic and never once will I ask questions or judge any of them..

    I am not trying to change your minds Im just speaking my opion like everyone of you and besides none of you will ever know untill your put or some one you know is in that sitution….

    July 30th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
  25. Karen K. says:

    Dear kaylie. I am praying for you. I am not judging you. I keep hearing you say EVERYONE MAKES MISTAKES. I will pray that you will have peace in your heart, real peace, not a talk myself into I am ok with my abortion. I sense you are still dealing with the reality of your loss of your child? There are people you can talk with to help you, if you would like. We do care about you and want you to know that. You can talk with kind people at Project Rachel at: noparh@juno.com.
    Life is the better choice. There are many people who can help those in a crisis pregnancy, even at the end of the day. Also, there is the option of adoption. Planned Parenthood did not refer anyone to adoption (this is by their own records) for the last few years.
    May God Bless you. You know Jesus said, "Nor do I condemn you, go and sin no more." Life is the better choice, always. Please help defend life and not contribute to more babies lives being killed. It will hurt you more. It is not real compassion to want another human being dead so the mother can live the way they wish. Please help defend life; it will help you to heal. We all make mistakes; Jesus loves you in spite of everything. But please don't head down that destructive path of false compassion. Live and let live. God Bless you, kaylie.

    July 31st, 2008 at 12:05 am
  26. Karen K. says:

    dear kaylie, The site I gave you above is for e-mailing to a project Rachel person who can talk with you. You may also try this site and or number to call. These people are very kind and compassionate and loving.
    Project Rachel
    Nationwide network for post-abortion individual counseling. 1-800-5WE-CARE

    July 31st, 2008 at 12:33 am
  27. Karen K. says:

    Welcome to the website of Project Rachel ~ Halifax. Nova Scotia. POST …
    Project Rachel is a confidential post-abortion healing ministry
    http://www.projectrachel.ca

    July 31st, 2008 at 12:42 am
  28. kaylie says:

    Karen I do respect you I truly do… I respect the fact that you are a "pro lifer" that honestly DOES CARE you know your information and you know were to tell people to go at the end of the day… You didnt strick back at me saying im a bad person… I guess thats just my prejudcy coming out I have came arcross tons of people who do strick back have there reasons why to choice pro life but cant back it up like you can…. No Im not going to work at an abortion clinic to tell women all over to do what I did… Im going to be working there to help them make there decision and explain all the downfalls of each path they may choise to go on…

    I sit and say now that im ok with the decision I made but your right it took some time for me to get where I at right now… i didnt know there was websites I could go to or anything like that Ive learned in my past to not hide from the fact I did have an abortion but to share it with the world… I am today very happy that I choise to go down that path took me a while and yes I still think about it but I wouldnt be were I am today If I choise to keep that baby….
    thats something I know you and I will never agree on and I wouldnt want no one else to go through the pain I did but there is no stoping people these days there going to do what there going to do… I just want people out there to know that there is choices and not every person is like me and will benifet off of the choise I made…. It is a sticky subject to be spoken about but I know not to judge and everyone has there own problems…
    but the fact of the matter is even tho I live with the deciosion you're still willing to help me out and I thank you for that…

    August 1st, 2008 at 11:37 am
  29. Karen K. says:

    Kaylie said: “ I wouldnt be were I am today If I choise to keep that baby….”

    I need to tell you Kaylie, you probably were not told this by the abortion clinic you went to for your abortion, but you could have let your baby live and be where you are today. You did not know this and were most likely led to believe your baby would keep you from your dreams. This is the greatest lie. Look at what I attached here. These people and many other organizations like them help girls realize it IS possible to choose life for their baby and still continue to fulfill their dreams. They will help girls do that.
    YOU can help girls do that!!!

    Planned Parenthood makes HUGE amounts of money doing abortions! They do not want the girls to keep their babies, nor do they offer them money, places to live, job exploration or loving counsel to help them with their child or offer them the option of adoption. Planned Parenthood (by their own records) did not refer one girl to adoption 2005-to the present day

    YOU said Kaylie, “I wouldnt want no one else to go through the pain”

    THEN INSTEAD KAYLIE,
    join people like these(below)- who tell the girls the truth and offer kind, self-sacrificing love for girls like you!!

    You said, “ but there is no stoping people these days there going to do what there going to do…”

    There have been many girls who were abortion bound but with the help of these good crisis pregnancy places they DID choose life for their child and DO NOT REGRET IT ONE BIT!!

    Woman’s Choice Services provides Life Choices for Women in Need.
    Our Services

    Crisis Intervention
    Our primary focus is helping pregnant women who feel that they have no hope and nowhere to turn. In a culture where women in difficult and unplanned pregnancies are pressured into abortion, they need a place of light and peace. Woman’s Choice Services is that place. By providing vital counseling and connections, Woman’s Choice Services helps women see that they have true healthy choices for themselves and their children.

    Pregnancy Support
    Women who have made the heroic choice to have their children are supported throughout their pregnancy and childbirth. Through our parish-based mothering program, Project Gabriel, we provide the material, emotional, and spiritual support that women need to become good mothers to their children.

    Post Abortion
    Many of the women who seek help from us have already experienced the pain of abortion. Through the use of the recently released journal, A Time to Speak, and companion support group, A Time to Heal, we help women who have been suffering this pain to find the healing love of Jesus Christ.

    Help enrich the lives of others
    Do you feel the Lord is asking you to work in this ministry? Could you volunteer your time to counsel a young woman in need? Could you organize and disperse material donations to new moms? Could you dedicate yourself to daily prayer for our effort? Please contact us at info@choicedupage.com or call us at 630-261-9564 if you feel called to join this vital work.
    Copyright 2008 Woman’s Choice Services, Inc. (630) 261-9564 | info@choicedupage.com

    PLEASE CONSIDER DOING THIS, KAYLIE, YOU COULD OFFER REAL HELP TO THE GIRLS, AND THEIR INNOCENT BABIES TO LIVE AND NOT BE KILLED, GOD BLESS, KAREN

    August 1st, 2008 at 1:52 pm
  30. Karen K. says:

    Kaylie take a look at this site as well: A Woman's Choice Resource Center .:.
    A Woman's Choice Resource Center (AWC) is a non-profit special health clinic … Information on abortion, adoption, & pregnancy -Adoption Services …
    http://www.awomanschoice.com -

    August 1st, 2008 at 3:31 pm

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