Introducing the Fox Valley Families Forum
Posted by Matt Yonke, May 7th, 2008
I'm pleased to announce the launch of a brand new section of the Fox Valley Families Against Planned Parenthood community. Now, in addition to getting all your updates on pro-life in the Fox Valley on the blog, you can discuss the issues on the Fox Valley Families Forum. Follow this link or click the button at the top of the page that says "Forum" to visit and sign up today!
The Fox Valley Families Forum is a great place for conversation on a wide variety of issues. "A Matter of Life and Death" is the section where you can discuss the whole range of life issues from abortion to contraception to euthanasia and more. "Pro-Life in the Fox Valley" is all about local pro-life events and issues. Stop by "Foundations of Faith" for conversation about religion, or visit the "Off Topic Lounge" where you can talk about whatever you want.
To get started, click on the button on the top of this page that says "Forum". Once you're there, click the link that says "Register" below the search box on the upper right hand side of the page. You'll need to register and pick out a username and password. Once you've done that, you'll receive an e-mail with a link to follow to confirm your account.
Now you're all set to use the forum! Stop by the introductions thread in the "Off Topic Lounge" and say hello. Join in on an existing thread, or start your own. I'm really looking forward to getting to know you all better in this new venue. I hope you enjoy it too!
thx. I am glad we have a place to discuss "theism"
May 8th, 2008 at 8:41 am
Me too truthseeker. I'll be glad to have a place where we don't have to limit discussions and a blog where comments can stay on topic!
May 8th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
Thats the way it should be Matt. Even if I was one of the biggest offenders of going off topic.
May 8th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Sounds good to me also!
May 8th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
JerryVilt,
I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to convey with your post.
May 9th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Hey Jerry, I think I've located your issue. Here's the quote from the case:
At the heart of LIBERTY is the RIGHT to define one's own concept of existence, of meaning, of the universe, and of the mystery of human life
And here's what you said about it:
I cannot even decide the weather, yet I am expected to define existence itself! I live in a universe I did not create, and yet I am declared to be the creator of that universe's meaning! I did not call myself into life, yet I have the LIBERTY to define the meaning of life!
I think you missed the part of the quote where it says "one's own concept" of what existence, meaning, etc. means. The quote doesn't say that each individual defines existence, but that each individual gets to define his or own IDEA of what existence means TO THEM. See?
May 9th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Hi Jerry and Carol,
This is exactly the sort of conversation that would do great in the forum, probably in the Foundations of Faith section, leaving the comments section here free to discuss the forum itself!
May 10th, 2008 at 8:39 am
Hi Carol:
What do you beleive one is doing when one "defines one's own concept?"
May 11th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
add on to #8"
Or defineing any concept for that matter?
May 11th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
I do not want to give the impression that the following is the solution to the problem but rather an attempt to begin refining the understanding of the problem in the hope that the solution will than be obvious.
Namely:
When God said do not eat of the Tree of Good and Evil, dis this imply that the tree was also the Tree of Right and Wrong?
May 12th, 2008 at 2:59 am
Re #10:
problem should be in quotation, that is "problem".
May 12th, 2008 at 3:09 am
Re #10:
"dis" (typo error), should be "does or did". (opps, I am not sure wheather it should be "does" or "did".
May 12th, 2008 at 3:13 am
Monsiour Vilt,
What one means by defining ones own concept is to open a new discussion of said concept on your own in the forum. Does that make sense?
May 12th, 2008 at 3:54 am
Re #13:
Yes, yes indeed Sir (or M'am)….(covering all bases)
May 12th, 2008 at 4:31 am
Thinking is work to me. And good thinking is hard work to me. So, as a "coffee break" I'd like to comment on my "journey" by wondering if not:
Right and Wrong is about Truth.
Good and Evil is about Love.
May 12th, 2008 at 4:35 am
(still on my "coffee break"):
Truth without Love is empty.
Love without Truth is blind.
Faith (belief) without works (action?) is dead.
May 12th, 2008 at 4:58 am
(still on my coffee break):
might as well try to make the comments approch completeless by stating:
Freedom is not the Right to do what we want.
Freedom is the Right to do what we ought.
(immm….right, wrong, good, evil, belief, action, and freedom…..everything except liberty….even my coffee break is getting to "look" like work!!!)
May 12th, 2008 at 5:11 am
opps, I left out "oughtness" in #17
May 12th, 2008 at 5:16 am
(I think I'm still on my "coffee break" when I say I am only here in response to #6….you guys (and gals) have your own agenda, but if it is not about this (response to #6 I must respectively bow out. What I am doing is explaining what I labeled "my journey" in #15. I've got what I hope to be a "one track mind".)
May 12th, 2008 at 5:31 am
yikes, I think I am still on my "coffee break" but I want to clarify #15, #16, #17, #18. namely they were statements to my self "out loud". Not intended to be me trying to refine your position but rather me "sorting things out" so to speak and doing it in a way that you know a little of "where I am coming from".
May 12th, 2008 at 5:51 am
(still on my "coffee break"…I think):
#15, #16, #17, #18 are, I beleive, my "ground work" or "axioms" (like in geometry where "starting points" & definitions are first stated and then the arguments are presented). There are two more that are "zinners, beleive me but I gotta go to a prior committment…will be back).
May 12th, 2008 at 7:23 am
(still on "coffee break"):
The last 3 "axioms" of mine are:
1. The 5th commandment is here stated as;
Thou shalt not murder.
2. It is evident (that is….not a conclusion) that an
inordinate love of self is the cause of EVERY sin.
3. God is the CAUSE of the ACT of SIN.
God is NOT THE CAUSE of SIN.
O.K. I ready to get down to business.
May 12th, 2008 at 11:50 am
I stand by my statement in it's entireity.
It is perfectly quoted by Carol in 6. He quoted me to the dotting of the i's and crossing of the t's.
I made it about a week ago, with the intention of backing it up with an arguement. But I went "haywire" so to speak and ended up making a strong request to have
ALL my blogs deleted. I was very grateful that my request was granted. again Thanks Web Administrator!
BUT Carol pulled a "fast one", so to speak, and entered it. (And like I said, he did so perfectly!
Seeing it in #6 got me going again, but once again I really feel I bit off more than I can chew, so to speak.
I desire very much that you all proceed as stated in #1-#5. Thus once again, I strongly wish that ALL my blogs be deleted. (Feel rest assured that I'll "cool it" from now on.) Jerry V.
May 12th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Please back slowly away from the computer, Jerry.
May 12th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
My "idea" of existence is my attempt to define existence. My "freedom and liberty" to define my definition of existance is in effect defining my definition.
I beleive the above is not only natural but what my intellect was created to do.
What is "astonishing" is the defining of the definition…that we are able to reflect on the act of reflecting.
"astonishing here is at the core of what all this is about…..namely I think it was interpreted as a undesireable thing.
Please beleive me when I would be understood like "writing on the wall" if you refer to:
Blogs 31 & 32, "Wednesday Open Thread: 'unwanted' Pregnancies" April 2008 archives
Right in the middle of it, I took verbatim from it.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
finement of #25:
"it is interpreted as a undesireable thing" unfortunately it seems it was much worse…it was interpreted as a lie…undermining the theme of the distertation.
May 12th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Jerry (and all)—
Thanks for plunging with such zeal into these issues! This is precisely the kind of discussion that it would be well to pursue on the new forum, specifically in the Foundations of Faith topic area.
I invite you to log onto the new forum and continue these reflections there. Register and then you can click on the "New Topic" link to create a new discussion thread.
(Comments are now closed on this entry.)
May 12th, 2008 at 6:00 pm