Comments on: Warm hearts face chill winds to witness for life

By: mattyonke

mattyonke — Wed, 07 May 2008 15:12:30 +0000

Ok, the atheism/theism debate is officially over. We're going to try to keep the comments section of posts on a topic of some relation to the actual post.

If you'd like to continue that discussion privately feel free, I believe most of the parties have already posted their e-mail addresses in various threads.

P.S.

I don't want to tip my hand too far, but we're working on something that might facilitate this sort of discussion in an environment more suited to it. Keep your eyes peeled.

By: John

John — Wed, 07 May 2008 12:39:58 +0000

Oh get over it– a troll is an internet term for people hanging out at a website where they just pester those who are there for the purpose of the website (like a Sox fan at a Cubs message board). There's no unfair bias against you by the moderators of this board.

My point is that there's no point engaging you or your friend in an argument that uses God as a premise because it's not going to convince you. But it will give you an excuse to say for the twentieth time that we're deluding ourselves with a myth. That's called feeding the trolls. Sorry you're not web-savy. Maybe it would have prevented your case of the vapers.

I'm not going back to search for it, but I remember quite clearly the time you called people fools.

The unforgiveable sin is suicide because you've thrown away your future. I don't necessarily believe that, but that's the teaching.

By: Student

Student — Wed, 07 May 2008 12:32:24 +0000

Truthseeker,

If somebody raped her I would consider it my responsibility to eliminating the person that raped her.

While I certainly share your sentiment, how does this square with your faith?

By: Student

Student — Wed, 07 May 2008 12:31:16 +0000

Truthseeker,
What does it mean to "grieve" the holy spirit? I was raised Pentecostal and that's a term with which I am completely unfamiliar. I was taught as a child that the "unforgivable sin" was taking the lord's name in vain. Perhaps that's something only Pentecostal's believe?

By: Student

Student — Wed, 07 May 2008 12:30:03 +0000

John,
I'd like you to point me to the post where I called anyone a fool.

How about if you admit that the reason you're here isn't to minimize the # of abortions performed but to condemn anyone who happens to disagree with your worldview. My skin is tough enough that I can take being called a troll, however, don't be naive enough to believe that had I called you the same thing the moderator of this board would certainly have called me out on it. Even you should be able to see the double standard.

By: John

John — Wed, 07 May 2008 12:09:45 +0000

If saying that decent people don't hang out at a website repeatedly telling people of faith that they're fools and calling those people the common internet term (troll) is too much for you, get over it. I can disagree with people agreeably. I just get tired of you and your friend repeatedly telling people who believe in God that they are doing nothing more than deluding themselves in a myth. I think you two are wasting everyone's time doing that and that the manner in which you do it is offensive. I do hope you can get off your fainting couch about someone saying "Planned Barenhood." I guess what I'd like is for you to quit pretending that you're here for dialogue and admit that you're here to belittle those with faith.

By: truthseeker

truthseeker — Wed, 07 May 2008 04:11:54 +0000

Also Professor, disbelief in God "now" does not guarantee you eternal torture. You have difficulty comprehending this cause you will not allow yourself to believe what you cannot prove using scientific method.
There is a spiritual battle being waged for souls.

By: Karen K.

Karen K. — Wed, 07 May 2008 03:59:59 +0000

Professor says:
But nowhere did I say I thought God punished those who commit no evil to eternal torture.

And yet simple disbelief in God is 'evil' enough to justify this?

To go even further, there is ONE unforgivable crime according to Christian theology. One so unspeakably evil that there is no forgiveness. And that horrific crime? Not murder, not abortion, no, it's denying the Holy Spirit. If this sounds loving and compassionate to you, I really feel sorry for you.

May 6th, 2008 at 10:22 pm

All sins no matter how scarlet, when confessed to Jesus with a true and contrite heart will be forgiven. The greatest sin against God is to believe that your sin is too great for His Mercy.

By: truthseeker

truthseeker — Wed, 07 May 2008 03:58:31 +0000

Correction Professor, that unforgiveable crime is not "denying" the Holy Spirit, it is "grieving" the Holy Spirit. And I for one am glad that in God's compassion for us, there will be no place in heaven for those who grieve the Holy Spirit.

By: Karen K.

Karen K. — Wed, 07 May 2008 03:45:09 +0000

If a pregnant girl comes for an abortion she is admiting that something is alive in her and she wants it not to be alive.In other words, there would be no reason for an abortion if there wasn't an alive growing human being in her womb. So, AN ABORTION KILLS A LIFE. No matter what method of abortion is used, no matter what stage of growth of the baby in the womb, abortion is murder.

All born humans need to defend the unborn humans.