I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view…

I always enjoy coming to this site because you offer great tips and advice for people like me who can always use a few good pointers. I will be getting my friends to pop around fairly soon….

Abortion has the HUGE benefit that when birth control fails (or when its not used) and a woman doesn't want to be pregnant and have a child, she can avoid that.
This, in turn, allows women to plan better for their own futures in ways that were simply impossible before. This is as true for women who are married and don't want children as for those that are. Ultimately, it allows more options for living, breathing people. In a free society, that is a good thing.
Posted by Professor April 13th, 2008 at 7:49 am

Professor,
Killing babies so they don't use the resources or breathe the air of the ones who are already alive. That is a despicable thing for a free society to do. It devalues human life and your "freedom" is actually just a right to act irresponsibly.

Why so pessimistic? Can you not even admit that it is was the "faith" of so many individuals throughout history that allow us to day to reap such wonderful benefits? How can you so totally ignore this based on some "fanaticism"?

"Faith: look at all the fanaticism that faith causes:"

* the discovery of America
* the founding of our country
* the creation of universities
* the widespread establishment of hospitals
* the widespread establishment of schools and education for the everyone
* the contributions to art and literature
* etc, etc, etc

Discovery of America was not a religious 'faith' thing. In fact, Columbus was wrong about the size of the earth, which made him think it more likely that he would get to China.

Whether the founding of America was a faith thing or not depends somewhat on when you consider the founding to have happened. I certainly have no respect for the Puritans and Pilgrims. They really were a bunch of religious fanatics that simply wanted to enforce their particular brand of religion on everyone. When England didn't allow this, they left and came here. In my mind, the *true* founding of America was an Enlightenment era phenomenon: when people like Franklin and Jefferson (who were deists at best) formulated the ideas of freedom and separation of religion and government.

The creation of universities (a middle ages phenomenon) I'll grant you was done primarily for religious reasons. Fortunately, they have gotten away from that to more secular education, which is what we need.

Hospitals: here again, religion has done some good, but it was the innovations of the non-religious that really made the differences in medical care: the discovery of bacteria and their impact of disease, etc.

You are optimistically rosy ("Abortion has the HUGE benefit") in regard to abortion, yet ignore the serious flaws inherent in this killing of human life:

* the death of "potential" (those who may cure AIDS, the common cold, etc.
* the risk of death of the mother
* the increase likelihood of breast cancer
* possible infertility
* possible perforation of the uterus or cervix
* post-abortion depression
* difficulty bonding with present or future children
* increased likelihood of ectopic pregnancy
* etc, etc, etc

But you forget about the 'death potential' of going through a pregnancy. You forget that there is an increased risk of breast cancer simply from never being pregnant (estrogen is a potent breast cancer activator over time). Some people consider the 'risk' of infertility a benefit. There is also a general fact of 'post-partum depression'. It seems that the fluctuation of hormone levels associated with the termination of a pregnancy (whether artificial or natural) causes depression. Pregnancy, in any case, is a dangerous condition. Even today, women die from it. The risk of dying from continuing a pregnancy is *far* more than from terminating it in the first trimester. etc, etc, etc

Happy Sunday morning!

Could you just sacrifice a goat for me instead? (humor) Seriously, Roger, you're an athiest too. I just take it one god further than you do.

Hmmm. Now that is interesting. Could I sacrifice an unblemished lamb instead? (my humor bad to you).

Have a great Sunday!

God Bless,
Roger

Why so pessimistic? Can you not even admit that it is was the "faith" of so many individuals throughout history that allow us to day to reap such wonderful benefits? How can you so totally ignore this based on some "fanaticism"?

"Faith: look at all the fanaticism that faith causes:"

• the discovery of America
• the founding of our country
• the creation of universities
• the widespread establishment of hospitals
• the widespread establishment of schools and education for the everyone
• the contributions to art and literature
• etc, etc, etc

You are optimistically rosy ("Abortion has the HUGE benefit") in regard to abortion, yet ignore the serious flaws inherent in this killing of human life:

• the death of "potential" (those who may cure AIDS, the common cold, etc.
• the risk of death of the mother
• the increase likelihood of breast cancer
• possible infertility
• possible perforation of the uterus or cervix
• post-abortion depression
• difficulty bonding with present or future children
• increased likelihood of ectopic pregnancy
• etc, etc, etc

For more see Possible Physical Side Affects or Complications You can have With your abortion.

God Bless,
Roger

I did not pick up on your "headscarf" reference being women wearing burqas or the like.

Headscarves and burqas are two different things. I recently read an article in Newsweek that goes into the problems women are facing because they are engaging in "immoral" behavior (not wearing a headscarf, wearing black longer than 3 days, etc.) Again, these women can't control their reproductive/sex lives or even what company they can keep. Can you not see the slippery slope?

No, I don't want your moral values forced upon me and my family, but they ARE being forced upon us. They are forcing us to accept the killing of human life.

No, they're really not. Has anyone knocked on your door to force your wife or daughter to have an abortion? If so, I know many, many good lawyers who would be willing to accept your case pro bono.

For example, Gov. Blagovich has forced pharmacists to dispense birth control against their consciences.

Yes, that is their job. However, there are outs for pharmacists who don't want to do so. They are capable of having another pharmacist fill a prescription. What if you took your sick child to the only doctor in town. The Only physician around says, "Well, Roger, it looks like your beautiful child is extremely dehydrated. However, I don't believe in using a needle to give fluids because I find it "immoral" so let's join hands and pray." Your child will be dead but, hey, the doctor's morals are still intact.

Sex education programs, like the ones that PP does, are in our schools, teaching our children.

A lack of sexual education only leads to more abortions — the one thing upon which I think we can both agree we'd like to see end. The countries with the most sex education also have the lowest STD and abortion rates.

I think you do not know my "religion" very well. With all the evidence that exists for my "religion", I could not have the faith that you have in your religion.

To be clear, I never said I oppose "your" religion. I oppose ALL religion (and do not espouse one of my own — you may have missed that).

I will pray all the more for you. As a "student", I believe that you do have a desire to seek the truth. This is a step towards my "religion" (as you call it).

Could you just sacrifice a goat for me instead? (humor) Seriously, Roger, you're an athiest too. I just take it one god further than you do.

Why do you think faith is bad for society? And how does abortion better society?

Faith: look at all the fanaticism that faith causes: those men who ran airplanes into the WTC did so because of their faith. Look at how much tax money is lost because of the tax-exempt status of churches. Look at how using "faith" automatically stops discussion: well, I *certainly* can't question your FAITH. Even more destructive is the whole notion of taking some concepts on faith: it ultimately short circuits critical thinking, which this society, in particular, direly needs.

Abortion has the HUGE benefit that when birth control fails (or when its not used) and a woman doesn't want to be pregnant and have a child, she can avoid that. This, in turn, allows women to plan better for their own futures in ways that were simply impossible before. This is as true for women who are married and don't want children as for those that are. Ultimately, it allows more options for living, breathing people. In a free society, that is a good thing.

Why do you think faith is bad for society? And how does abortion better society?