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		<title>By: Jerry Vilt</title>
		<link>http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0107/zba-5/#comment-10025</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Vilt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>repeating part of above:

"Her story is the perfect example as to why we not only
pray from home and from church, but we also go pray at
the very places where lives are being hurt and taken,"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>repeating part of above:</p>
<p>&#034;Her story is the perfect example as to why we not only<br />
pray from home and from church, but we also go pray at<br />
the very places where lives are being hurt and taken,&#034;</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Vilt</title>
		<link>http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0107/zba-5/#comment-10024</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Vilt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A young woman walked up to the 40 Days for Life vigil 
outside an abortion center in Austin, Texas recently. 
She signed up to join the others in prayer ... and 
then immediately sat down on the sidewalk and started 
to cry. 

One of the volunteers stopped praying for a moment to 
approach the young woman, whom she had never met before, 
and asked her if she needed a hug. This volunteer 
assumed that the thought of what was going on inside 
the abortion facility had simply overcome this woman 
and brought her to tears.

But that wasn't the case. To her surprise, she found 
out this young woman was crying for another reason.

"I'm pregnant right now and don't want to be," she 
said. "I've already had four abortions.

She said she didn't have an abortion scheduled. "But 
I keep feeling this huge temptation to just go to an 
abortion clinic, pay my $400 and get it over with. 
I came to the sidewalk to pray, and to be around 
people who are like-minded as I am."

The young woman told one of the sidewalk counselors 
that she was twelve weeks into her pregnancy. She had 
already been to a pregnancy resource center, but was 
still a mess emotionally. 

She had become a Christian, she said. "But with this 
pregnancy, I just feel so depressed. I'm living in a 
women's shelter, and the last thing I want right now 
is to be pregnant."

The sidewalk counselor took her to dinner, and they 
sat and talked for hours. "As they developed a long-
term plan to get this young woman the help she needs," 
said Elizabeth McClung, the local 40 Days for Life 
coordinator in Austin, "she said something that should 
serve as an encouragement to every single pro-lifer 
who has ever thought about going to pray at an 
abortion facility."

"If you guys weren't out there praying," this woman 
said, "I would have pulled up to the facility, sat in 
my car for hours on end -- and ended up going inside 
for a fifth abortion. Since you were on the sidewalk 
praying, I knew I could find comfort and support 
there, so I went there to cry instead. Thank you for 
being there."

"Her story is the perfect example as to why we not only 
pray from home and from church, but we also go pray at 
the very places where lives are being hurt and taken," 
Elizabeth said.

She is now on a path to healing from her previous 
abortions, finding a job and taking her pregnancy one 
day at a time. And, Elizabeth said, "She is not going 
to have another abortion!"

Please pray for her, and for all who are desperate to 
break out of that cycle of abortion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A young woman walked up to the 40 Days for Life vigil<br />
outside an abortion center in Austin, Texas recently.<br />
She signed up to join the others in prayer &#8230; and<br />
then immediately sat down on the sidewalk and started<br />
to cry. </p>
<p>One of the volunteers stopped praying for a moment to<br />
approach the young woman, whom she had never met before,<br />
and asked her if she needed a hug. This volunteer<br />
assumed that the thought of what was going on inside<br />
the abortion facility had simply overcome this woman<br />
and brought her to tears.</p>
<p>But that wasn&#039;t the case. To her surprise, she found<br />
out this young woman was crying for another reason.</p>
<p>&#034;I&#039;m pregnant right now and don&#039;t want to be,&#034; she<br />
said. &#034;I&#039;ve already had four abortions.</p>
<p>She said she didn&#039;t have an abortion scheduled. &#034;But<br />
I keep feeling this huge temptation to just go to an<br />
abortion clinic, pay my $400 and get it over with.<br />
I came to the sidewalk to pray, and to be around<br />
people who are like-minded as I am.&#034;</p>
<p>The young woman told one of the sidewalk counselors<br />
that she was twelve weeks into her pregnancy. She had<br />
already been to a pregnancy resource center, but was<br />
still a mess emotionally. </p>
<p>She had become a Christian, she said. &#034;But with this<br />
pregnancy, I just feel so depressed. I&#039;m living in a<br />
women&#039;s shelter, and the last thing I want right now<br />
is to be pregnant.&#034;</p>
<p>The sidewalk counselor took her to dinner, and they<br />
sat and talked for hours. &#034;As they developed a long-<br />
term plan to get this young woman the help she needs,&#034;<br />
said Elizabeth McClung, the local 40 Days for Life<br />
coordinator in Austin, &#034;she said something that should<br />
serve as an encouragement to every single pro-lifer<br />
who has ever thought about going to pray at an<br />
abortion facility.&#034;</p>
<p>&#034;If you guys weren&#039;t out there praying,&#034; this woman<br />
said, &#034;I would have pulled up to the facility, sat in<br />
my car for hours on end &#8212; and ended up going inside<br />
for a fifth abortion. Since you were on the sidewalk<br />
praying, I knew I could find comfort and support<br />
there, so I went there to cry instead. Thank you for<br />
being there.&#034;</p>
<p>&#034;Her story is the perfect example as to why we not only<br />
pray from home and from church, but we also go pray at<br />
the very places where lives are being hurt and taken,&#034;<br />
Elizabeth said.</p>
<p>She is now on a path to healing from her previous<br />
abortions, finding a job and taking her pregnancy one<br />
day at a time. And, Elizabeth said, &#034;She is not going<br />
to have another abortion!&#034;</p>
<p>Please pray for her, and for all who are desperate to<br />
break out of that cycle of abortion.</p>
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		<title>By: Student</title>
		<link>http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0107/zba-5/#comment-4096</link>
		<dc:creator>Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, I think I agree with most of what you said.  I'm confused as to your statement, "The media puts out alerts on how fasting 1 day a month can help with heart disease, but the press doesn't see fit for the masses to digest this information."

Aren't the media and the press the same?  I'm confused when you say the media puts out the alert and the press doesn't......  To be honest, I haven't heard anything about the fasting claim.

As to the Presidential race, I agree that we need to hear a lot more on the issues.  Frankly, I'm sick of the back-biting, accusations and just plain bad behavior on the part of the candidates -- both Democratic and Republican.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, I think I agree with most of what you said.  I&#039;m confused as to your statement, &#034;The media puts out alerts on how fasting 1 day a month can help with heart disease, but the press doesn&#039;t see fit for the masses to digest this information.&#034;</p>
<p>Aren&#039;t the media and the press the same?  I&#039;m confused when you say the media puts out the alert and the press doesn&#039;t&#8230;&#8230;  To be honest, I haven&#039;t heard anything about the fasting claim.</p>
<p>As to the Presidential race, I agree that we need to hear a lot more on the issues.  Frankly, I&#039;m sick of the back-biting, accusations and just plain bad behavior on the part of the candidates &#8212; both Democratic and Republican.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan the Methodist</title>
		<link>http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0107/zba-5/#comment-4088</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan the Methodist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 03:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they have to put a warning on cigarettes. Don't you think it wise to alert people? The media puts out alerts on how fasting 1 day a month can help with heart disease, but the press doesn't see fit for the masses to digest this information. Good thing big press is looking out for women.
Comments not directed at you Student, at the press and government. It seems that research and grant money has become a dog and pony show that has little to do with the issues, kind of like our elections.
I am angry that I have heard little about issues from the presidential race down to our own US Congressional races. It seems to be marketing, because big government likes us to be IGNORANT. Ignorance and big government need each other to exist.

Sorry, hope you got my point. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they have to put a warning on cigarettes. Don&#039;t you think it wise to alert people? The media puts out alerts on how fasting 1 day a month can help with heart disease, but the press doesn&#039;t see fit for the masses to digest this information. Good thing big press is looking out for women.<br />
Comments not directed at you Student, at the press and government. It seems that research and grant money has become a dog and pony show that has little to do with the issues, kind of like our elections.<br />
I am angry that I have heard little about issues from the presidential race down to our own US Congressional races. It seems to be marketing, because big government likes us to be IGNORANT. Ignorance and big government need each other to exist.</p>
<p>Sorry, hope you got my point. <img src='http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Student</title>
		<link>http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0107/zba-5/#comment-4082</link>
		<dc:creator>Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan ~ Perhaps there are some bridges being built.....who woulda thunk it!  LOL

I think we pretty much agree on the sex education issue.  From my point of view, it's irrelevant whether or not that education comes from PP, the VNA or a well educated and informed adult.  It's the information and education that matters to me.  If it would make you feel better that it not be done by PP, I'd have no problem w/that whatsoever.

Teenagers can get birth control without parental notification and/or consent now -- and not just from PP.  I know we disagree here, but I believe that access is necessary.  There are some parents who would never allow that access who do have teenagers that are sexually active.  I want those kids to have some protection.  You may believe that birth control is playing Russian Roulette, but using nothing is just suicide.

I'm afraid we have to agree to disagree as to the link between abortion/breast cancer.  I grant you that there seems to be a connection among the group of women who have had an abortion and never a subsequent full term pregnancy.  However, for those women who have had an abortion and then a full-term pregnancy there isn't much of a link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan ~ Perhaps there are some bridges being built&#8230;..who woulda thunk it!  LOL</p>
<p>I think we pretty much agree on the sex education issue.  From my point of view, it&#039;s irrelevant whether or not that education comes from PP, the VNA or a well educated and informed adult.  It&#039;s the information and education that matters to me.  If it would make you feel better that it not be done by PP, I&#039;d have no problem w/that whatsoever.</p>
<p>Teenagers can get birth control without parental notification and/or consent now &#8212; and not just from PP.  I know we disagree here, but I believe that access is necessary.  There are some parents who would never allow that access who do have teenagers that are sexually active.  I want those kids to have some protection.  You may believe that birth control is playing Russian Roulette, but using nothing is just suicide.</p>
<p>I&#039;m afraid we have to agree to disagree as to the link between abortion/breast cancer.  I grant you that there seems to be a connection among the group of women who have had an abortion and never a subsequent full term pregnancy.  However, for those women who have had an abortion and then a full-term pregnancy there isn&#039;t much of a link.</p>
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		<title>By: Student</title>
		<link>http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0107/zba-5/#comment-4081</link>
		<dc:creator>Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cathy ~ If the complications arose due to negligence or some type of medical malpractice, yes.  If not, then no.  DISCLAIMER:  You can pretty much sue anyone for anything -- winning/collecting is another matter entirely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cathy ~ If the complications arose due to negligence or some type of medical malpractice, yes.  If not, then no.  DISCLAIMER:  You can pretty much sue anyone for anything &#8212; winning/collecting is another matter entirely.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
		<link>http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0107/zba-5/#comment-4072</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 02:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a question to our budding lawyers who post here:  if my minor daughter goes to PP and has an abortion with my knowledge (let alone my consent!) and there are medical complications resulting from that abortion, I understand that I am legally responsible to be sure she is treated for those complications (and I would want to do that) - but... could I sue the PP facility for the cost of treating those complications, since my minor child IS a minor, and isn't able to enter into a contract with them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question to our budding lawyers who post here:  if my minor daughter goes to PP and has an abortion with my knowledge (let alone my consent!) and there are medical complications resulting from that abortion, I understand that I am legally responsible to be sure she is treated for those complications (and I would want to do that) - but&#8230; could I sue the PP facility for the cost of treating those complications, since my minor child IS a minor, and isn&#039;t able to enter into a contract with them?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan the Methodist</title>
		<link>http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0107/zba-5/#comment-4067</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan the Methodist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 20:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Student, 

My response to your abstinence analogy.

You have a point about abstinence only. I do not reject reasonable sex education with parental OK. What I do reject is having planned parenthood doing it in schools. Clearly the largest form of revenue to PP clinics is Abortions and this is the end goal. I do reject the idea that underage kids should be able to get BC without parental notification.(not even going to consent) Abortion without parental notifications is INSANE. I can appreciate all the good intentions, but I cannot allow morality and rationality stink up Aurora. It does not pass the smell test.
If you were to acknowledge the ABC link with abortion and breast cancer. How could you give money to an organization whose slogan was "A Race for the CURE," when they are contributing to an outfit that increases risk?
In a similar way I could not support planned parenthood teaching, having access, and conveniencing kids into sex without even making them aware of the true consequences and doing it all without parental involvement up to and including performing outpatient surgery.

Thanks in advance to your response.
I hope there is some bridges being built here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Student, </p>
<p>My response to your abstinence analogy.</p>
<p>You have a point about abstinence only. I do not reject reasonable sex education with parental OK. What I do reject is having planned parenthood doing it in schools. Clearly the largest form of revenue to PP clinics is Abortions and this is the end goal. I do reject the idea that underage kids should be able to get BC without parental notification.(not even going to consent) Abortion without parental notifications is INSANE. I can appreciate all the good intentions, but I cannot allow morality and rationality stink up Aurora. It does not pass the smell test.<br />
If you were to acknowledge the ABC link with abortion and breast cancer. How could you give money to an organization whose slogan was &#034;A Race for the CURE,&#034; when they are contributing to an outfit that increases risk?<br />
In a similar way I could not support planned parenthood teaching, having access, and conveniencing kids into sex without even making them aware of the true consequences and doing it all without parental involvement up to and including performing outpatient surgery.</p>
<p>Thanks in advance to your response.<br />
I hope there is some bridges being built here.</p>
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		<title>By: Student</title>
		<link>http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0107/zba-5/#comment-4041</link>
		<dc:creator>Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Erin....that last post should have been directed to you, not Tara.  My bad!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Erin&#8230;.that last post should have been directed to you, not Tara.  My bad!</p>
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		<title>By: Student</title>
		<link>http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2008/0107/zba-5/#comment-4040</link>
		<dc:creator>Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tara,
Thanks for the info.  Actually, the paper I'm currently working on is about emancipation and minors -- how abortion law relates to that is only a minor part of it.  The case law I've read to date (and it only pertains to the State of Illinois) is that becoming a parent emancipates a child.  However, I'll certainly check out your info.

Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tara,<br />
Thanks for the info.  Actually, the paper I&#039;m currently working on is about emancipation and minors &#8212; how abortion law relates to that is only a minor part of it.  The case law I&#039;ve read to date (and it only pertains to the State of Illinois) is that becoming a parent emancipates a child.  However, I&#039;ll certainly check out your info.</p>
<p>Thanks again!</p>
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