Comments on: What's at issue before the ZBA tomorrow? http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1211/zba-3/ Just another WordPress weblog Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:39:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Sylvia http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1211/zba-3/#comment-3325 Sylvia Mon, 17 Dec 2007 06:18:11 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1211/whats-at-issue-before-the-zba-tomorrow/#comment-3325 Jerry, well said...though Dick Durbin IS up for reelection. You don't hear much about it in the media. There are 3 Republican candidates to run against him: Andy Martin (a candidate with an interesting history that runs for office frequently, but no one takes seriously), Steve Sauerberg (a doctor that has just gotten the support of the IL GOP leadership--a dubious endorsement--but who would not give me a straight answer when I asked him, twice, if he was pro-life), and MIKE PSAK (the only admitted, truly pro-life candidate). Mike Psak is a truck driver with an MBA/Finance who is a little rough around the edges but intelligent, conservative, and will vote according to Christian principles, not caring what the Establishment may think. While his main focus would be on jobs (his strength from his educational/working background), he is VERY pro-life (no exceptions), and he'd love to defund PP. Please get the word out about him, and contribute to his campaign if you can. He's in serious need of funding. His web site is http://www.psak4ussenate.com/index.html Jerry, well said…though Dick Durbin IS up for reelection. You don't hear much about it in the media. There are 3 Republican candidates to run against him: Andy Martin (a candidate with an interesting history that runs for office frequently, but no one takes seriously), Steve Sauerberg (a doctor that has just gotten the support of the IL GOP leadership–a dubious endorsement–but who would not give me a straight answer when I asked him, twice, if he was pro-life), and MIKE PSAK (the only admitted, truly pro-life candidate). Mike Psak is a truck driver with an MBA/Finance who is a little rough around the edges but intelligent, conservative, and will vote according to Christian principles, not caring what the Establishment may think. While his main focus would be on jobs (his strength from his educational/working background), he is VERY pro-life (no exceptions), and he'd love to defund PP. Please get the word out about him, and contribute to his campaign if you can. He's in serious need of funding. His web site is http://www.psak4ussenate.com/index.html

]]> By: Jessica T. http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1211/zba-3/#comment-3310 Jessica T. Sun, 16 Dec 2007 16:15:06 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1211/whats-at-issue-before-the-zba-tomorrow/#comment-3310 Mary Lu, I have been reading this blog and your longest reply has confused me. I too have been supporting Chris Lauzen due to his record. And what I believed to be sincerity. You sound so hurt by him and without asking you to spill your guts, could you be more clear about your trouble with him? I don't want to support someone who is a charlitan. Has he done something criminal? What is this sneer that he gave you in reference to. I don't believe anyone meant to be condescending to you. I'm so sorry you felt so misunderstood, but personally I would really like to understand why you feel this way better. So I can make a better assessment of who to vote for also. May God be with you, respectfully Jess Mary Lu, I have been reading this blog and your longest reply has confused me. I too have been supporting Chris Lauzen due to his record. And what I believed to be sincerity. You sound so hurt by him and without asking you to spill your guts, could you be more clear about your trouble with him? I don't want to support someone who is a charlitan. Has he done something criminal? What is this sneer that he gave you in reference to. I don't believe anyone meant to be condescending to you. I'm so sorry you felt so misunderstood, but personally I would really like to understand why you feel this way better. So I can make a better assessment of who to vote for also. May God be with you, respectfully Jess

]]> By: L.K. http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1211/zba-3/#comment-3302 L.K. Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:54:43 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1211/whats-at-issue-before-the-zba-tomorrow/#comment-3302 Brian, LOL! It is good...I'd buy more if it were cheaper, though! I mean, come on, nine bucks for a pint of ice cream? Holy cows! :) Brian,
LOL!
It is good…I'd buy more if it were cheaper, though!
I mean, come on, nine bucks for a pint of ice cream?
Holy cows!

:)

]]> By: Brian http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1211/zba-3/#comment-3300 Brian Sat, 15 Dec 2007 20:23:36 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1211/whats-at-issue-before-the-zba-tomorrow/#comment-3300 "why do we have to pay as much for this stuff as those in other states do?" Because it's goooood! Try the eggnog or the peppermint this Christmas. "why do we have to pay as much for this stuff as those in other states do?"

Because it's goooood! Try the eggnog or the peppermint this Christmas.

]]> By: L.K. http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1211/zba-3/#comment-3299 L.K. Sat, 15 Dec 2007 20:15:06 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1211/whats-at-issue-before-the-zba-tomorrow/#comment-3299 Personally, I would only consider Oberweis if he made cheaper ice cream. I mean, come on..why do we have to pay as much for this stuff as those in other states do? Personally, I would only consider Oberweis if he made cheaper ice cream. I mean, come on..why do we have to pay as much for this stuff as those in other states do?

]]> By: Jerry Nickels http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1211/zba-3/#comment-3298 Jerry Nickels Sat, 15 Dec 2007 19:05:28 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1211/whats-at-issue-before-the-zba-tomorrow/#comment-3298 I see where PP has endorsed Bill Foster for the Hastert vacancy. Steve Trombley, who is not even a resident of the 14th congressional district, articulated exactly why we do not want to implode on our way to the voting booth. Bill Foster will be a strong supporter of PP and everything they stand for. Whether it is Mr. Oberweis or Mr. Lauzen that prevails in the primary we need to do our best to insure that one will get in at the general election. Neither is perfect (who is?) but they will not be in Planned Parenthood's back pocket as is Mr. Foster. One of the dangers about talking politics is that there is the potential to create divisions and hard feelings. So I will try to be very careful not to offend anyone. We must be realistic about what a single person can achieve while in office. To this end in all fairness Chris Lauzen has done more for pro-life causes than most of his colleagues in the state senate. Could he have done more? Probably, but in Chris we will have someone who has stuck his neck out more than once and has been a friend to the pro-life movement for years. Also in fairness, if we want to judge the effectiveness of a particular politician on behalf of pro-life issues, neither President Reagan or President Bush with all of their political power accomplished what many have felt they could. So by comparison a state senator should not be expected to prevail where others far more powerful have not. The political difficulty of trying to steer a particular piece of legislation through a body of equally strong willed individuals is something I suppose most of us (myself included) could never really appreciate unless we were to experience it firsthand. This is where Chris Lauzen has an edge over any of his opponents. He has been there for some 14 years and going into the U.S. House of Representatives he will carry with him the experience that will serve his constituents well. And finally for what it is worth (probably nothing, but please bear with me) when it comes time to replace Senator Durbin I can think of no one with a better shot at it than Jim Oberweis. I see where PP has endorsed Bill Foster for the Hastert vacancy. Steve Trombley, who is not even a resident of the 14th congressional district, articulated exactly why we do not want to implode on our way to the voting booth. Bill Foster will be a strong supporter of PP and everything they stand for.

Whether it is Mr. Oberweis or Mr. Lauzen that prevails in the primary we need to do our best to insure that one will get in at the general election. Neither is perfect (who is?) but they will not be in Planned Parenthood's back pocket as is Mr. Foster.

One of the dangers about talking politics is that there is the potential to create divisions and hard feelings. So I will try to be very careful not to offend anyone.

We must be realistic about what a single person can achieve while in office. To this end in all fairness Chris Lauzen has done more for pro-life causes than most of his colleagues in the state senate. Could he have done more? Probably, but in Chris we will have someone who has stuck his neck out more than once and has been a friend to the pro-life movement for years.

Also in fairness, if we want to judge the effectiveness of a particular politician on behalf of pro-life issues, neither President Reagan or President Bush with all of their political power accomplished what many have felt they could. So by comparison a state senator should not be expected to prevail where others far more powerful have not.

The political difficulty of trying to steer a particular piece of legislation through a body of equally strong willed individuals is something I suppose most of us (myself included) could never really appreciate unless we were to experience it firsthand. This is where Chris Lauzen has an edge over any of his opponents. He has been there for some 14 years and going into the U.S. House of Representatives he will carry with him the experience that will serve his constituents well.

And finally for what it is worth (probably nothing, but please bear with me) when it comes time to replace Senator Durbin I can think of no one with a better shot at it than Jim Oberweis.

]]> By: Greg Guest http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1211/zba-3/#comment-3294 Greg Guest Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:44:03 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1211/whats-at-issue-before-the-zba-tomorrow/#comment-3294 I don't know your criteria for who gets your vote, but I choose to treat it like a precious commodity. An illusive commodity earned by the blood and toil of our ancestors. A commodity denied to many of this planet. Chris Lauzen may be a lot of what his supporters say, but to me there's little difference between him and any other politician. I have often gone into the voting booth and left the office in question blank. Like our governors’ race this last election. I was given no choice, so I chose no one. I don't know your criteria for who gets your vote, but I choose to treat it like a precious commodity. An illusive commodity earned by the blood and toil of our ancestors. A commodity denied to many of this planet. Chris Lauzen may be a lot of what his supporters say, but to me there's little difference between him and any other politician. I have often gone into the voting booth and left the office in question blank. Like our governors’ race this last election. I was given no choice, so I chose no one.

]]> By: Mary Lu http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1211/zba-3/#comment-3293 Mary Lu Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:14:02 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1211/whats-at-issue-before-the-zba-tomorrow/#comment-3293 As far as me I never said I was without sin, in fact I feel I am a low worthless snail but I would have never done those things to anyone. It was inhumane. He only sneered. I must not be worthy of reoresentation. As far as me I never said I was without sin, in fact I feel I am a low worthless snail but I would have never done those things to anyone. It was inhumane. He only sneered. I must not be worthy of reoresentation.

]]> By: Sylvia http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1211/zba-3/#comment-3291 Sylvia Sat, 15 Dec 2007 07:03:02 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1211/whats-at-issue-before-the-zba-tomorrow/#comment-3291 Regarding the Lauzen thread: Nobody's perfect. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone. That said, I think both Oberweis and Lauzen could do a fair job of representing us. But Lauzen has a record to look to, whereas Oberweis does not. What has Lauzen done? He has fought consistently against abortion, was the lead sponsor of the Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act, and most recently, according to his record at the <a href="http://www.ilga.gov/senate/SenatorBills.asp?MemberID=1219" rel="nofollow">IGA site</a>. , on 1/31/07, he sponsored a bill to force abortion facilities to meet the strict standards required of all other ambulatory surgical centers. It's apparently stuck in the Rules Committee, but Lauzen is trying. Just look at his record. Where do you find fault in his public record? Regarding the Lauzen thread: Nobody's perfect. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.
That said, I think both Oberweis and Lauzen could do a fair job of representing us. But Lauzen has a record to look to, whereas Oberweis does not. What has Lauzen done? He has fought consistently against abortion, was the lead sponsor of the Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act, and most recently, according to his record at the IGA site. , on 1/31/07, he sponsored a bill to force abortion facilities to meet the strict standards required of all other ambulatory surgical centers. It's apparently stuck in the Rules Committee, but Lauzen is trying. Just look at his record. Where do you find fault in his public record?

]]> By: Greg Guest http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1211/zba-3/#comment-3290 Greg Guest Sat, 15 Dec 2007 05:40:38 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1211/whats-at-issue-before-the-zba-tomorrow/#comment-3290 Hey Nancy: I'd vote for Pontius Pilot before I'd vote for Chris Lauzen. If a good looking family is the qualification why don't you run? And as far as good old boys did you ever see his political contributors lists. He may not owe PP anything, but everybody else will be standing in line. Did Chris ever really stand alone on an issue? Look at the bill sponsorships for the years he's been in Springfield. I don't want to personally attack Chris here, but if you want to openly endorse him, you don't leave others much choice, but to shoot him down. Why did Chris wait until just now to start crowing about the parental notification issue? Surely as a tenured state senator he could have used some leverage to maintain pressure or publicity to get things rolling sooner. And one last thing; I'll never forget that rationally thought out legal name change to Christopher J. Lauzen, CPA. Well at least the county judge had more sense. Hey Nancy: I'd vote for Pontius Pilot before I'd vote for Chris Lauzen. If a good looking family is the qualification why don't you run? And as far as good old boys did you ever see his political contributors lists. He may not owe PP anything, but everybody else will be standing in line. Did Chris ever really stand alone on an issue? Look at the bill sponsorships for the years he's been in Springfield. I don't want to personally attack Chris here, but if you want to openly endorse him, you don't leave others much choice, but to shoot him down. Why did Chris wait until just now to start crowing about the parental notification issue? Surely as a tenured state senator he could have used some leverage to maintain pressure or publicity to get things rolling sooner. And one last thing; I'll never forget that rationally thought out legal name change to Christopher J. Lauzen, CPA. Well at least the county judge had more sense.

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