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Thanks for responding to this post after so much time. I was specifically asking for evidence that there was any reason to call these pro-lifers any such name as terrorist.

Obviously, we all know there have been such things as clinic bombings and people who glorify them. Is that any reason to call any pro-life group that might exist a terrorist organization?

Let's put the shoe on the other foot, there have been many terrorist Muslims, but we all know it would be bad form (and someone would get the pants sued off them) if a nice peaceful Muslim group was trying to take out hotel space for a meeting and they were charged more because some Muslims are terrorists.

I thought this was America. Let's give people a fair shake and not blame everyone for some whack job's mistake.

In Christ,

Matt

B says (December 4th, 2007 at 11:55 pm):
Again, to Acadia, there are waiting lists to adopt children in this country. ….. You might wonder, "why do these people adopt from Guatamela or Africa or Poland?" Because American babies who might be adopted are killed.

I still believe that to be a falacious argument. It's not because babies aren't available….many infants and children are available. Most people just don't want to go through many of the things you mentioned in your post.

As always, I have to jump in on an adoption discussion that veers in this direction. My daughter through adoption is A-A and I am white. There are so many reasons why a transracial adoption is not for everyone, and few of them involve racism in any way. I talk about adoption to strangers at least weekly, sometimes daily, because it is right out there in the open that my daughter and I don't "match." I'm great with that, but it would not be for everyone. People want to hear my story, they will even ask me about my experience with infertility. Sometimes A-A women give me unsolicited hair and skin care advice. All of this works for me, but it would be a horribly uncomfortable situation for someone more introverted.

Second, you have to think about the healthiest thing for you prospective child. Suppose that you are not racist, but your parents or other relatives are. You cannot responsibly bring a child into a situation where s/he will be deliberately made to feel inferior by those who should love him/her unconditionally. Suppose that you live in a very homogeneous community and that your schools or neighbors would not react kindly to a multi-racial family. Again, it would not be responsible to expose your child to that situation.

Choosing to make your family a trans-racial family, as I did, can be a wonderful thing for everyone, but it is a decision that you need to consider. It takes that little extra bit of effort to make sure that my daughter will be confident in her race and culture, and be confident to deal with the questions that are sure to come from her friends and classmates.

On the subject of waiting children in foster care, this again is a different kettle of fish than infant adoption. Birthparent involvement tends to be much more positive with infant adoption, the system can take years of uncertainty before a DCFS adoption is approved with stressful court case after court case, and children can be removed from their foster home even after living there for years. The situation is just far more complicated than you are making it out to be.

I would say pro-lifers are, like myself, big proponents of adoption and this is not an arena in which criticism is warranted.

I have to disagree with you. I am there almost everyday, and I have not heard anyone say mean things to any girls who go there. If they seem to be yelling, it is so that they can hear us. No one says anything nasty. What have you heard?

There were some in the summer, but they don't come anymore bc most of us made it clear that those kinds of actions were not right and unacceptable. There is never a reason to assault (verbally/physically), swear, or act hateful to anyone no matter what side of the issue one is on. By the way all the violence that has occured at PP Aurora have been perpetated by those who claim to be Pro-Choice.

I have had the honor to talking with girls and couples that have gone into PP and have had wonderful exchanges. Because of alot of misinformation and lies PP puts out about us, those who have talked with us are surprised at how respectful and gentle we are. When we talk and they see that we really care not just about their unborn babies but that we care about them as well, the anger and hostility subsides. We have had girls and couples change their mind because we offer an alternative.

PP thrives on protraying us as evil, vengeful and hateful people who only care about "blobs of tissue" and not about the girl. We are religious zealots who cannot think for ourselves and that PL women are oppressed. That is a total lie. Many of us are Christians and our faith teaches us to care and protect the most vulnerable like the unborn, disabled and elderly. But, there are many groups that are not religious that are Pro-Life as well; Feminists for Life and Athiests for Life, LeftOut, and many others.

Unfortuantely there are those who call themselves Pro-Life who are extreme, but there are those who call themselves Pro-Choice who really believe that unborn babies are "parasites, aliens, invaders, leeches, and should not be considered a human being until the umbilical cord is cut", and hence a woman should be able to "get rid of the pregnancy" at any time. As I have stated before those who kill abortionists or bomb clinics are not Pro-Life. They have committed a crime and need to be punished. But Abortionists kill innocent unborn children and they should be held accountable for their crimes as well. Just bc abortion is legal doesn't make it right. Slavery was legal, but it was wrong. It took hundreds of years to end it.

Abortion is no different. Some day there will be a generation that will rise up and see abortion for the evil it is, and abortion will be illegal, just like slavery. But until then, I and others will patiently and lovingly wait outside PP and try to give girls a better, healthier and life affirming alternative to abortion. And I do not believe that is hateful in any way.

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Illinois Department of Children and Family Services show that for the year 2007 there are still, 4232 children awaiting homes. Why are we doing outside adoptions when we have this many children in Illinois who have no family? Where are people wanting these children?

What is actually a blatant libelous falsehood is calling pro-lifers "anti-choice terrorists"! Show me one shred of evidence for calling these people those kind of misleading names.

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Please see http://www.armyofgod.com
That should really be all the proof you need.