Comments on: Dominick's erects fence under cover of night http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1012/fence/ Just another WordPress weblog Sat, 05 Jul 2008 01:14:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Ted http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1012/fence/#comment-3327 Ted Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:38:01 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1012/fence/#comment-3327 <strong>Ted...</strong> Are you sure this is correct?... Ted…

Are you sure this is correct?…

]]> By: Generations for Life » Blog Archive » Free Speech Rights Under Threat in Aurora http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1012/fence/#comment-2017 Generations for Life » Blog Archive » Free Speech Rights Under Threat in Aurora Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:26:21 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1012/fence/#comment-2017 [...] True Ministries. We faced difficult logistics for the talks that closed the Rally, thanks to the hideous fence put up by Dominick's. People were lined up in the strip of grass between the fence and the [...] [...] True Ministries. We faced difficult logistics for the talks that closed the Rally, thanks to the hideous fence put up by Dominick's. People were lined up in the strip of grass between the fence and the [...]

]]> By: Eric http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1012/fence/#comment-1873 Eric Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:01:47 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1012/fence/#comment-1873 <strong>Eric...</strong> Good job. I really enjoyed it.... Eric…

Good job. I really enjoyed it….

]]> By: Eric Scheidler http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1012/fence/#comment-1550 Eric Scheidler Tue, 16 Oct 2007 17:57:29 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1012/fence/#comment-1550 Why is it that of all movements only of the pro-life movement is it demanded that we solve all other social ills—poverty, hunger, homelessness, war and disease—before we devote our attention to our issue? Why aren't anti-war activists derided for not focusing on AIDS? Why are opponents of capital punishment like St. Helen Prejean not attacked for failing to address illiteracy? Why are Head Start volunteers not criticized for ignoring the aged homeless? The more than 3,400 unborn babies being killed every day deserve a full time advocate. But why does that bother people so much that they choose to call us hypocrites for not dealing with other social problems, any one of which they would bless us for focusing on with singular attention? I'll tell you why: because our concern for the unborn is for them a rebuke. Abortion is the single gravest social injustice in America and millions are complicit either through direct involvement in abortion or through their inaction. Our presence merely praying on a sidewalk is a rebuke. It inspires an inner conflict with shame and guilt that too often is transformed into anger with us for being there. That inner shame and guilt leads to all kinds of bizarre behavior—such as claiming that holding a picket sign in front of someone's house is morally equivalent to mailing anthrax to government offices or detonating a bomb on a subway train; or screaming about exposing a kid to abortion signs who's in the back seat fast asleep. That, anyway, is my psychoanalysis of our more furious opponents. For more on this, I offer again a link to my article <a href="http://generationsforlife.org/2006/0511/myth-hate/" rel="nofollow">"The Myth: Pro-Lifers are Filled with Hate"</a> at the Generations for Life blog. And with that, I hereby close comments for this thread—403 is plenty! Why is it that of all movements only of the pro-life movement is it demanded that we solve all other social ills—poverty, hunger, homelessness, war and disease—before we devote our attention to our issue?

Why aren't anti-war activists derided for not focusing on AIDS? Why are opponents of capital punishment like St. Helen Prejean not attacked for failing to address illiteracy? Why are Head Start volunteers not criticized for ignoring the aged homeless?

The more than 3,400 unborn babies being killed every day deserve a full time advocate. But why does that bother people so much that they choose to call us hypocrites for not dealing with other social problems, any one of which they would bless us for focusing on with singular attention?

I'll tell you why: because our concern for the unborn is for them a rebuke. Abortion is the single gravest social injustice in America and millions are complicit either through direct involvement in abortion or through their inaction.

Our presence merely praying on a sidewalk is a rebuke. It inspires an inner conflict with shame and guilt that too often is transformed into anger with us for being there.

That inner shame and guilt leads to all kinds of bizarre behavior—such as claiming that holding a picket sign in front of someone's house is morally equivalent to mailing anthrax to government offices or detonating a bomb on a subway train; or screaming about exposing a kid to abortion signs who's in the back seat fast asleep.

That, anyway, is my psychoanalysis of our more furious opponents. For more on this, I offer again a link to my article "The Myth: Pro-Lifers are Filled with Hate" at the Generations for Life blog.

And with that, I hereby close comments for this thread—403 is plenty!

]]> By: John http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1012/fence/#comment-1549 John Tue, 16 Oct 2007 17:55:43 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1012/fence/#comment-1549 "What constitutes being alive…a heart beat, brain functionality…having a soul or spirit?" Steve - this was my original question...not what is life. However if I'm to understand your definition of life it would be cell reproduction? When the cells of the zygote begins to devide...this is the beginning of life? "What constitutes being alive…a heart beat, brain functionality…having a soul or spirit?"

Steve - this was my original question…not what is life.

However if I'm to understand your definition of life it would be cell reproduction? When the cells of the zygote begins to devide…this is the beginning of life?

]]> By: ProliferfromAurora http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1012/fence/#comment-1548 ProliferfromAurora Tue, 16 Oct 2007 17:49:17 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1012/fence/#comment-1548 Elizabeth I understand that I agree with you however, your acting like that those that are having abortions are wanting to kill thier babies and they have no intentions to. There are situations like a meth user or a drug addict or a drunk beating the woman and will cause more harm then good to be in that situations. I am talking about those that don't know what Morals are I am talking about those that don't have no clue what's going on with thier lives. However, I am against those that says I am not ready for a baby I am going to abort. I can see your cause but to me we can't save all of those that are aborted. What about me that bleeds for two weeks and needs to use Birth control to help it stop? I have a disorder if I don't take the Birth control then I would bleed to death. Elizabeth I understand that I agree with you however, your acting like that those that are having abortions are wanting to kill thier babies and they have no intentions to. There are situations like a meth user or a drug addict or a drunk beating the woman and will cause more harm then good to be in that situations. I am talking about those that don't know what Morals are I am talking about those that don't have no clue what's going on with thier lives. However, I am against those that says I am not ready for a baby I am going to abort.
I can see your cause but to me we can't save all of those that are aborted.
What about me that bleeds for two weeks and needs to use Birth control to help it stop? I have a disorder if I don't take the Birth control then I would bleed to death.

]]> By: Steve http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1012/fence/#comment-1547 Steve Tue, 16 Oct 2007 17:45:57 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1012/fence/#comment-1547 To continue my thought, if you were to ask what is the animating principle of life itself then you would be asking what is the soul, or who is God. But then, that is a discussion of first principles or first act prior to life. To continue my thought, if you were to ask what is the animating principle of life itself then you would be asking what is the soul, or who is God. But then, that is a discussion of first principles or first act prior to life.

]]> By: Elizabeth http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1012/fence/#comment-1545 Elizabeth Tue, 16 Oct 2007 17:31:52 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1012/fence/#comment-1545 Prolifer from aurora, Babies are alive too. We're helping them. I am all about helping the homeless, but how about we start with the people who don't have a voice yet or can help themselves? Babies are at risk in the womb with no say. At least a homeless person can go to a soup kitchen to eat or a homeless shelter to sleep. An unborn baby can't run anywhere to protect themselves from their mother and they shouldn't have to. Why don't you get your life back in order and realize they're killing the next generation. Elizabeth Prolifer from aurora,

Babies are alive too. We're helping them. I am all about helping the homeless, but how about we start with the people who don't have a voice yet or can help themselves? Babies are at risk in the womb with no say. At least a homeless person can go to a soup kitchen to eat or a homeless shelter to sleep. An unborn baby can't run anywhere to protect themselves from their mother and they shouldn't have to. Why don't you get your life back in order and realize they're killing the next generation.

Elizabeth

]]> By: Steve http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1012/fence/#comment-1544 Steve Tue, 16 Oct 2007 17:31:16 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1012/fence/#comment-1544 # 387 John says: Mike and anyone else, What does it mean to be alive? I have asked this question repeatedly w/out any response… What constitutes being alive…a heart beat, brain functionality…having a soul or spirit? John, to my understanding, to be alive is to be animated from within. To posses an active principle of animation or growth. A puppet is animated but not alive, the puppeteer is the animating principle of the puppet. Unlike the puppet, a zygote has it's own principle of animation. At the moment of conception the zygote grows and is animated in itself, receiving nourishment and protection from the mother but not it's principle of animation. Please forgive me for this brief definition of life, this thread could become a lengthy discussion all its own but I have to get going. # 387 John says:

Mike and anyone else,

What does it mean to be alive?

I have asked this question repeatedly w/out any response…

What constitutes being alive…a heart beat, brain functionality…having a soul or spirit?

John, to my understanding, to be alive is to be animated from within. To posses an active principle of animation or growth. A puppet is animated but not alive, the puppeteer is the animating principle of the puppet. Unlike the puppet, a zygote has it's own principle of animation. At the moment of conception the zygote grows and is animated in itself, receiving nourishment and protection from the mother but not it's principle of animation. Please forgive me for this brief definition of life, this thread could become a lengthy discussion all its own but I have to get going.

]]> By: ProliferfromAurora http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1012/fence/#comment-1543 ProliferfromAurora Tue, 16 Oct 2007 17:26:20 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/1012/fence/#comment-1543 I forgot to add that Dominicks had a right to erect a fence on that properity. For Boycotting this store your saying your not wanting to feed and clean your family. I know there are other stores in the area but, if one store is out of what you need to get and Dmonicks has the item you need then you need to get it at the store. I forgot to add that Dominicks had a right to erect a fence on that properity. For Boycotting this store your saying your not wanting to feed and clean your family. I know there are other stores in the area but, if one store is out of what you need to get and Dmonicks has the item you need then you need to get it at the store.

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