Comments on: Favorite speeches from the 9/25 City Council meeting http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0928/favorite-speeches-from-the-925-city-council-meeting/ Just another WordPress weblog Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:31:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: John http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0928/favorite-speeches-from-the-925-city-council-meeting/#comment-2097 John Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:41:15 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0928/favorite-speeches-from-the-925-city-council-meeting/#comment-2097 Tara says, "How many times have we heard from the experts that we are so much more violent then we were 30 years ago." The experts are wrong...more violent how...lets go back in time for a minute. 1977 - Cold War, NYC Blackout for 25hrs (looting, murders etc...), Vietnam War had ended 6 million dead , AIDS and Crack about to be introduced w/ a higher murder rate throughout the 80s than today 1947 - Cold War beginning, CIA was formed, World War 2 just ended 70 million dead. 1917 - World War 1 20 million dead, Man hunt for Pancho Villa, Cocaine just became illegal one year prior, along w/ heroine and morphine, prohibition 2 yrs later which caused the rise of orginized crime, anyone could bear arms w/out a certificate until 1920. 1865 - US Civil War 620,000 dead 1783 - Revolutionary War 25,000 dead 1500-1890 - 90% of Native American Pop massacred. I've heard the stat as well that we are more violent in the US now...it is a laughable statistic. Do wars not count as violence? How about mass homocide of an entire culture? We are much more stable now than the entire short history of the US. Tara says,

"How many times have we heard from the experts that we are so much more violent then we were 30 years ago."

The experts are wrong…more violent how…lets go back in time for a minute.

1977 - Cold War, NYC Blackout for 25hrs (looting, murders etc…), Vietnam War had ended 6 million dead , AIDS and Crack about to be introduced w/ a higher murder rate throughout the 80s than today

1947 - Cold War beginning, CIA was formed, World War 2 just ended 70 million dead.

1917 - World War 1 20 million dead, Man hunt for Pancho Villa, Cocaine just became illegal one year prior, along w/ heroine and morphine, prohibition 2 yrs later which caused the rise of orginized crime, anyone could bear arms w/out a certificate until 1920.

1865 - US Civil War 620,000 dead

1783 - Revolutionary War 25,000 dead

1500-1890 - 90% of Native American Pop massacred.

I've heard the stat as well that we are more violent in the US now…it is a laughable statistic. Do wars not count as violence? How about mass homocide of an entire culture?

We are much more stable now than the entire short history of the US.

]]> By: Tara http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0928/favorite-speeches-from-the-925-city-council-meeting/#comment-2085 Tara Wed, 31 Oct 2007 01:06:20 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0928/favorite-speeches-from-the-925-city-council-meeting/#comment-2085 im also pro choice, Here is something to think about. Before Roe families were stronger and intact, and crime and violence stats were significantly lower. You see when a society has a lack of respect for life, especially for the most vulnerable, then society starts to crumble. We have seen society continue down a dark path. How many times have we heard from the experts that we are so much more violent then we were 30 years ago. Why should people care about your life or mine when we sanction the killing of unborn children. Do the research, you might surprise yourself at what you find. Violence always begets violence. Want to live in a better society, start by protecting the most vulnerable and lifting up families. im also pro choice,

Here is something to think about. Before Roe families were stronger and intact, and crime and violence stats were significantly lower. You see when a society has a lack of respect for life, especially for the most vulnerable, then society starts to crumble. We have seen society continue down a dark path. How many times have we heard from the experts that we are so much more violent then we were 30 years ago.

Why should people care about your life or mine when we sanction the killing of unborn children. Do the research, you might surprise yourself at what you find. Violence always begets violence. Want to live in a better society, start by protecting the most vulnerable and lifting up families.

]]> By: Paul2 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0928/favorite-speeches-from-the-925-city-council-meeting/#comment-2083 Paul2 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:16:55 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0928/favorite-speeches-from-the-925-city-council-meeting/#comment-2083 The fight for life is never pointless. And just cause abortion was legalized a few decades ago does not mean it will be forever. Just last year the US Supreme Court passed a law stating people do not have a right to partial birth abortion. Some people may want to deliver babies up to their chest, slide a scissors up their spine till you feel it at the base of the skull, and grab the babies head firmly with the other hand while puncturing the skull with the scissors. At this point the babies jerks violently and goes stiff as the "doctor" opens the scissors wide and pulls it out of the babies skull. Then sticks a vaccuum inside the womans uterus and sucks out the babies brains while it finally goes limp. The above procedure was considered legal in the US since Roe V Wade passed a few decades ago, but just cause something was legal for a time does not mean it will be or should be legal forever. And per the US Supreme court vs. Planned Parenthood in 2006, just cause some people may want to kill their babies this way and organizations like PP are willing to kill babies this way does not mean that they should be allowed to act this way or that they have some type of constitutional right to commit infanticide. The fight for life is never pointless. And just cause abortion was legalized a few decades ago does not mean it will be forever. Just last year the US Supreme Court passed a law stating people do not have a right to partial birth abortion. Some people may want to deliver babies up to their chest, slide a scissors up their spine till you feel it at the base of the skull, and grab the babies head firmly with the other hand while puncturing the skull with the scissors. At this point the babies jerks violently and goes stiff as the "doctor" opens the scissors wide and pulls it out of the babies skull. Then sticks a vaccuum
inside the womans uterus and sucks out the babies brains while it finally goes limp.

The above procedure was considered legal in the US since Roe V Wade passed a few decades ago, but just cause something was legal for a time does not mean it will be or should be legal forever. And per the US Supreme court vs. Planned Parenthood in 2006, just cause some people may want to kill their babies this way and organizations like PP are willing to kill babies this way does not mean that they should be allowed to act this way or that they have some type of constitutional right to commit infanticide.

]]> By: im also pro choice http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0928/favorite-speeches-from-the-925-city-council-meeting/#comment-2079 im also pro choice Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:11:49 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0928/favorite-speeches-from-the-925-city-council-meeting/#comment-2079 abortions should be legal this is the united states, shouldn't the people be allowed to choose? i know it goes against some of your religions, but this is a country who's law is completely separate from religion. Look this is how i see it, if you don't like abortion then don't use it. However if you do, the use it. Keep it legal for those of us who don't have a problem with it. There are bigger problems the then planned parenthood that we should focus on. All of us are wasting time and energy fighting each other on something thats never going to change. We will never change your opinions and you will never change ours. I know I'm not going to wake up one day and switch sides and I don't expect any of you people to ether. We should forget about it and work to fix other problems that are more serious like the war or our city. No one will win this fight. Its pointless. abortions should be legal this is the united states, shouldn't the people be allowed to choose? i know it goes against some of your religions, but this is a country who's law is completely separate from religion. Look this is how i see it, if you don't like abortion then don't use it. However if you do, the use it. Keep it legal for those of us who don't have a problem with it. There are bigger problems the then planned parenthood that we should focus on. All of us are wasting time and energy fighting each other on something thats never going to change. We will never change your opinions and you will never change ours. I know I'm not going to wake up one day and switch sides and I don't expect any of you people to ether. We should forget about it and work to fix other problems that are more serious like the war or our city. No one will win this fight. Its pointless.

]]> By: Dave R. http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0928/favorite-speeches-from-the-925-city-council-meeting/#comment-522 Dave R. Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:06:48 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0928/favorite-speeches-from-the-925-city-council-meeting/#comment-522 Sorry ... didn't mean for that my last comment to posted some many times.... The submit botton screwed up. Sorry … didn't mean for that my last comment to posted some many times…. The submit botton screwed up.

]]> By: Dave R. http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0928/favorite-speeches-from-the-925-city-council-meeting/#comment-520 Dave R. Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:55:57 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0928/favorite-speeches-from-the-925-city-council-meeting/#comment-520 Dave R. says: "im pro choice (for freedom) says: 'you all are communist ass holes its to bad that you all were not aborted and are making the world a lesser place. if you want to stop abortion then why dont you give up all your rights well your at it that seems really smart. then we can all be taken advantage of by our government. hope you all burn in hell.'" OMGosh! That is freaking HILARIOUS!! I laughed at this till I almost cried! Ahhh- the typical pro-abort…right on que! This person is like a vile and vicious rabid dog- who's foaming at the mouth! But instead of foam- it's hate, and instead of a mouth- it's hate, and instead of a whole lovable pooch make'n up "man's best friend" it's- ALL hate! I love how the pro-abortionists are supposed to be the "enlightened" ones- full of superiority when it comes to compassion, kindness and understanding, and pro-lifer's are the one's who are backwards and evil! But as always- that paragraph just once again shows their true colors…hate and contempt for babies, hate and contempt for the elderly, hate and contempt for the handicapped, hate and contempt for any one who has a differencing opinion from their's, hate and contempt for anyone who believes they may actually be trying to save another human being's life…especially if it gets in the way of them [pro-choicer's]living their self-center ones! Dave R. says: "im pro choice (for freedom) says:
'you all are communist ass holes its to bad that you all were not aborted and are making the world a lesser place. if you want to stop abortion then why dont you give up all your rights well your at it that seems really smart. then we can all be taken advantage of by our government. hope you all burn in hell.'"
OMGosh! That is freaking HILARIOUS!! I laughed at this till I almost cried!
Ahhh- the typical pro-abort…right on que!
This person is like a vile and vicious rabid dog- who's foaming at the mouth! But instead of foam- it's hate, and instead of a mouth- it's hate, and instead of a whole lovable pooch make'n up "man's best friend" it's- ALL hate!
I love how the pro-abortionists are supposed to be the "enlightened" ones- full of superiority when it comes to compassion, kindness and understanding, and pro-lifer's are the one's who are backwards and evil! But as always- that paragraph just once again shows their true colors…hate and contempt for babies, hate and contempt for the elderly, hate and contempt for the handicapped, hate and contempt for any one who has a differencing opinion from their's, hate and contempt for anyone who believes they may actually be trying to save another human being's life…especially if it gets in the way of them [pro-choicer's]living their self-center ones!

]]> By: Dave R. http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0928/favorite-speeches-from-the-925-city-council-meeting/#comment-521 Dave R. Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:55:57 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0928/favorite-speeches-from-the-925-city-council-meeting/#comment-521 Dave R. says: "im pro choice (for freedom) says: 'you all are communist ass holes its to bad that you all were not aborted and are making the world a lesser place. if you want to stop abortion then why dont you give up all your rights well your at it that seems really smart. then we can all be taken advantage of by our government. hope you all burn in hell.'" OMGosh! That is freaking HILARIOUS!! I laughed at this till I almost cried! Ahhh- the typical pro-abort…right on que! This person is like a vile and vicious rabid dog- who's foaming at the mouth! But instead of foam- it's hate, and instead of a mouth- it's hate, and instead of a whole lovable pooch make'n up "man's best friend" it's- ALL hate! I love how the pro-abortionists are supposed to be the "enlightened" ones- full of superiority when it comes to compassion, kindness and understanding, and pro-lifer's are the one's who are backwards and evil! But as always- that paragraph just once again shows their true colors…hate and contempt for babies, hate and contempt for the elderly, hate and contempt for the handicapped, hate and contempt for any one who has a differencing opinion from their's, hate and contempt for anyone who believes they may actually be trying to save another human being's life…especially if it gets in the way of them [pro-choicer's]living their self-center ones! Dave R. says: "im pro choice (for freedom) says:
'you all are communist ass holes its to bad that you all were not aborted and are making the world a lesser place. if you want to stop abortion then why dont you give up all your rights well your at it that seems really smart. then we can all be taken advantage of by our government. hope you all burn in hell.'"
OMGosh! That is freaking HILARIOUS!! I laughed at this till I almost cried!
Ahhh- the typical pro-abort…right on que!
This person is like a vile and vicious rabid dog- who's foaming at the mouth! But instead of foam- it's hate, and instead of a mouth- it's hate, and instead of a whole lovable pooch make'n up "man's best friend" it's- ALL hate!
I love how the pro-abortionists are supposed to be the "enlightened" ones- full of superiority when it comes to compassion, kindness and understanding, and pro-lifer's are the one's who are backwards and evil! But as always- that paragraph just once again shows their true colors…hate and contempt for babies, hate and contempt for the elderly, hate and contempt for the handicapped, hate and contempt for any one who has a differencing opinion from their's, hate and contempt for anyone who believes they may actually be trying to save another human being's life…especially if it gets in the way of them [pro-choicer's]living their self-center ones!

]]> By: Dan http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0928/favorite-speeches-from-the-925-city-council-meeting/#comment-514 Dan Mon, 01 Oct 2007 05:45:16 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0928/favorite-speeches-from-the-925-city-council-meeting/#comment-514 im pro choice (for freedom), I respect your passion. I don't know how old you are or if you understand what communism was and what socialism is today. The clear leader in support of Planned Parenthood is and continues to be the Democratic Party. Democrats are also the one party you can count on for socialist policies from health care(which I do think has spiraled out of control) to raising taxes.(We can debate this point later) The Early Indians who knew nothing of Jesus Christ knew that killing unborn babies was wrong, why do you think that it is right and just??? I am in this to lower the number of abortions in this country significantly. In the same way we cannot stop illegal immigration totally, we cannot stop abortion totally. To throw our hands up and say,"What the hell we can't stop it," isn't a responsible answer to either problem. It takes a will by citizens to do what is right. Calmly explain why you think that you are right and I will urge others posting to answer with love and without shaming, mocking or stupefying you personally. (Does Stupefying count as a Bush Word?) Dan im pro choice (for freedom), I respect your passion. I don't know how old you are or if you understand what communism was and what socialism is today. The clear leader in support of Planned Parenthood is and continues to be the Democratic Party. Democrats are also the one party you can count on for socialist policies from health care(which I do think has spiraled out of control) to raising taxes.(We can debate this point later)
The Early Indians who knew nothing of Jesus Christ knew that killing unborn babies was wrong, why do you think that it is right and just???
I am in this to lower the number of abortions in this country significantly. In the same way we cannot stop illegal immigration totally, we cannot stop abortion totally. To throw our hands up and say,"What the hell we can't stop it," isn't a responsible answer to either problem. It takes a will by citizens to do what is right.
Calmly explain why you think that you are right and I will urge others posting to answer with love and without shaming, mocking or stupefying you personally. (Does Stupefying count as a Bush Word?)

Dan

]]> By: Jeff http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0928/favorite-speeches-from-the-925-city-council-meeting/#comment-504 Jeff Sun, 30 Sep 2007 15:50:24 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0928/favorite-speeches-from-the-925-city-council-meeting/#comment-504 > the debate should be in the tone > of charity and not name calling I'll second that. There's a lot of good to be done in debating and sharing opinions on this topic... especially since the intention/reasoning of the pro-life side is often misunderstood or misrepresented... but outright name calling certainly doesn't help anyone. Peace, Jeff > the debate should be in the tone
> of charity and not name calling

I'll second that. There's a lot of good to be done in debating and sharing opinions on this topic… especially since the intention/reasoning of the pro-life side is often misunderstood or misrepresented… but outright name calling certainly doesn't help anyone.

Peace,
Jeff

]]> By: Dave R. http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0928/favorite-speeches-from-the-925-city-council-meeting/#comment-503 Dave R. Sun, 30 Sep 2007 14:50:33 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0928/favorite-speeches-from-the-925-city-council-meeting/#comment-503 "im pro choice (for freedom) says: 'you all are communist ass holes its to bad that you all were not aborted and are making the world a lesser place. if you want to stop abortion then why dont you give up all your rights well your at it that seems really smart. then we can all be taken advantage of by our government. hope you all burn in hell.'" OMGosh! That is freaking HILARIOUS!! I laughed at this till I almost cried! Ahhh- the typical pro-abort…right on que! This person is like a vile and vicious rabid dog- who's foaming at the mouth! But instead of foam- it's hate, and instead of a mouth- it's hate, and instead of a whole lovable pooch make'n up "man's best friend" it's- ALL hate! ;) I love how the pro-abortionists are supposed to be the "enlightened" ones- full of superiority when it comes to compassion, kindness and understanding, and pro-lifer's are the one's who are backwards and evil! But as always- that paragraph just once again shows their true colors…hate and contempt for babies, hate and contempt for the elderly, hate and contempt for the handicapped, hate and contempt for any one who has a differencing opinion from their's, hate and contempt for anyone who believes they may actually be trying to save another human being's life…especially if it gets in the way of them [pro-choicer's]living their self-center ones! "im pro choice (for freedom) says:
'you all are communist ass holes its to bad that you all were not aborted and are making the world a lesser place. if you want to stop abortion then why dont you give up all your rights well your at it that seems really smart. then we can all be taken advantage of by our government. hope you all burn in hell.'"

OMGosh! That is freaking HILARIOUS!! I laughed at this till I almost cried!

Ahhh- the typical pro-abort…right on que!

This person is like a vile and vicious rabid dog- who's foaming at the mouth! But instead of foam- it's hate, and instead of a mouth- it's hate, and instead of a whole lovable pooch make'n up "man's best friend" it's- ALL hate! ;)

I love how the pro-abortionists are supposed to be the "enlightened" ones- full of superiority when it comes to compassion, kindness and understanding, and pro-lifer's are the one's who are backwards and evil! But as always- that paragraph just once again shows their true colors…hate and contempt for babies, hate and contempt for the elderly, hate and contempt for the handicapped, hate and contempt for any one who has a differencing opinion from their's, hate and contempt for anyone who believes they may actually be trying to save another human being's life…especially if it gets in the way of them [pro-choicer's]living their self-center ones!

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