Comments on: PP Opening is Delayed!!! http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0917/pp-opening-is-delayed/ Just another WordPress weblog Tue, 18 Nov 2008 03:42:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Leah Jet http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0917/pp-opening-is-delayed/#comment-2044 Leah Jet Tue, 30 Oct 2007 02:59:26 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0917/pp-opening-is-delayed/#comment-2044 Pray :) In His power, we PRAY PRAISE JESUS! PRAISE JESUS! PRAISE JESUS! PRAISE JESUS! PRAISE JESUS! PRAISE JESUS! PRAISE JESUS! PRAISE JESUS! PRAISE JESUS! PRAISE JESUS! PRAISE JESUS! PRAISE JESUS! GOOD JOB, PRO-LIFE!!!!!! GOOD JOB AURORA!!! Now Stay Strong in the Lord and in the power of HIS might and shut that factory of hell DOWN. Continue in prayer until every paper is signed, every 't' is crossed and every 'i' is dotted. There will be NO murder processing plant WHATSOEVER in the town of Aurora IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST SATAN WE RESIST YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS, NOW FLEE!! Whatever we loose on earth we loose in heaven and whatever we bind on earth is bound in heaven, whenever 2 agree on anything IT SHALL be done, THEREFORE.... in THIS authority - the Word of the MOST High God- WE DECLARE A BLOODLINE AROUND AURORA IN JESUS NAME! WE DECLARE THAT SATAN IS BOUND FROM ALL ACTIVITY PERTAINING TO THE ABORTION FACTORY OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD IN THE CITY OF AURORA IN THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. WE BIND ALL OF THE LIES OF THE DEVIL AND HIS COHORTS AND WE BIND THE SPIRIT OF DECEPTION, THE SPIRIT OF MURDER, GREED, LUST AND HATRED IN THE MIGHTY NAME OF THE LIVING CHRIST! WE PRAY FOR A SPIRIT OF REPENTANCE TO REST LIKE LEAD ON THE SHOULDERS AND HEARTS OF STEVE TROMBLEY AND EVERY SINGLE DOCTOR, STAFF MEMBER, ASSISTANT, ADMINISTRATOR, SERVICE PROVIDER AND ADVOCATE AT PLANNED PARENTING IN JESUS NAME! WE BIND THE SPIRIT OF LUST IN THE WORLD, WE BIND THE SPIRIT OF PORNOGRAPHY AND THE SPIRIT OF DESTRUCTION IN JESUS NAME AND WE LOOSE THE SPIRIT OF TEMPERANCE, SELF-CONTROL, THE SPIRIT OF PURITY AND HOLINESS AND THE SPIRIT OF RESTORATION IN JESUS NAME OVER FAMILIES, INDIVIDUALS AND ALL SITUATIONS AND WE TAKE BACK WHAT THE DEVIL HAS STOLEN BECAUSE WE WILL NOT, NOT, NOT TOLERATE HIS LIES ANYMORE!!! WE LOOSE THE ANGELIC HEAVENLY FORCES AND DECLARE WAR AGAINST THE HOST OF HELL AND WE LOOSE AGAPE LOVE, PEACE, TRUTH, LIFE, HONESTY, COMPASSION, INTEGRITY, TENDERHEARTEDNESS, REPENTANCE, GIVING AND SOWING, JOY AND PRAISE! Oh YES, WE RELEASE THE SPIRIT OF PRAISES UNTO THE MOST HIGH GOD, JUST AS JUDAH PRAISED BEFORE BATTLE, WE PRAISE AND GIVE ALL THE GLORY TO THE LORD AND GIVE THANKS THAT THE WILL OF THE LORD IS DONE! WE DECLARE LIGHT, LIGHT, LIGHT OVER AURORA IN THE NAME OF THE LIVING CHRIST. THE BLOOD OF JESUS OVER OUR PRAYERS AND WE THANK YOU LORD, THANK YOU LORD THAT THIS HELL HOLE IS SHUT DOWN, LIVES WILL BE SAVED AND YOUR BLESSING IS POURED OUT UPON AURORA FOR MAKING A STAND FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS! LET THIS BE A TESTIMONY TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD OF THE POWER OF OUR GOD, A TESTIMONY OF THE LOVE OF OUR GOD AND A TESTIMONY TO ABORTION CLINICS WORLDWIDE OF THE POWER OF OUR UNITED PRAYER AND THAT JESUS CHRIST IS LORD OF ALL! LET THE WILL OF THE LORD GOD BE DONE. AMEN! SO BE IT. HALLELUJAH! HALLELUJAH!HALLELUJAH! PRAISE THE MOST HIGH GOD, WE HAVE THE VICTORY IN THE NAME OF JESUS!! LIFE!!! LIFE!!! LIFE!!! LIFE MORE ABUNDANTLY.... HALLELUJAH! PRAISES TO THE KING! THANK YOU LORD! Pray :) In His power, we PRAY

PRAISE JESUS! PRAISE JESUS! PRAISE JESUS! PRAISE JESUS!
PRAISE JESUS! PRAISE JESUS! PRAISE JESUS! PRAISE JESUS!
PRAISE JESUS! PRAISE JESUS! PRAISE JESUS! PRAISE JESUS!

GOOD JOB, PRO-LIFE!!!!!!
GOOD JOB AURORA!!!

Now Stay Strong in the Lord and in the power of HIS might and shut that factory of hell DOWN.
Continue in prayer until every paper is signed, every 't' is crossed and every 'i' is dotted.

There will be NO murder processing plant WHATSOEVER in the town of Aurora IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST

SATAN WE RESIST YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS, NOW FLEE!!

Whatever we loose on earth we loose in heaven and whatever we bind on earth is bound in heaven, whenever 2 agree on anything IT SHALL be done, THEREFORE….
in THIS authority - the Word of the MOST High God- WE DECLARE A BLOODLINE AROUND AURORA IN JESUS NAME! WE DECLARE THAT SATAN IS BOUND FROM ALL ACTIVITY PERTAINING TO THE ABORTION FACTORY OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD IN THE CITY OF AURORA IN THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.
WE BIND ALL OF THE LIES OF THE DEVIL AND HIS COHORTS AND WE BIND THE SPIRIT OF DECEPTION, THE SPIRIT OF MURDER, GREED, LUST AND HATRED IN THE MIGHTY NAME OF THE LIVING CHRIST!
WE PRAY FOR A SPIRIT OF REPENTANCE TO REST LIKE LEAD ON THE SHOULDERS AND HEARTS OF STEVE TROMBLEY AND EVERY SINGLE DOCTOR, STAFF MEMBER, ASSISTANT, ADMINISTRATOR, SERVICE PROVIDER AND ADVOCATE AT PLANNED PARENTING IN JESUS NAME!

WE BIND THE SPIRIT OF LUST IN THE WORLD, WE BIND THE SPIRIT OF PORNOGRAPHY AND THE SPIRIT OF DESTRUCTION IN JESUS NAME AND WE LOOSE THE SPIRIT OF TEMPERANCE, SELF-CONTROL, THE SPIRIT OF PURITY AND HOLINESS AND THE SPIRIT OF RESTORATION IN JESUS NAME OVER FAMILIES, INDIVIDUALS AND ALL SITUATIONS AND WE TAKE BACK WHAT THE DEVIL HAS STOLEN BECAUSE WE WILL NOT, NOT, NOT TOLERATE HIS LIES ANYMORE!!!

WE LOOSE THE ANGELIC HEAVENLY FORCES AND DECLARE WAR AGAINST THE HOST OF HELL AND WE LOOSE AGAPE LOVE, PEACE, TRUTH, LIFE, HONESTY, COMPASSION, INTEGRITY, TENDERHEARTEDNESS, REPENTANCE, GIVING AND SOWING, JOY AND PRAISE! Oh YES, WE RELEASE THE SPIRIT OF PRAISES UNTO THE MOST HIGH GOD, JUST AS JUDAH PRAISED BEFORE BATTLE, WE PRAISE AND GIVE ALL THE GLORY TO THE LORD AND GIVE THANKS THAT THE WILL OF THE LORD IS DONE!

WE DECLARE LIGHT, LIGHT, LIGHT OVER AURORA IN THE NAME OF THE LIVING CHRIST.
THE BLOOD OF JESUS OVER OUR PRAYERS AND WE THANK YOU LORD, THANK YOU LORD THAT THIS HELL HOLE IS SHUT DOWN, LIVES WILL BE SAVED AND YOUR BLESSING IS POURED OUT UPON AURORA FOR MAKING A STAND FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS!
LET THIS BE A TESTIMONY TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD OF THE POWER OF OUR GOD, A TESTIMONY OF THE LOVE OF OUR GOD AND A TESTIMONY TO ABORTION CLINICS WORLDWIDE OF THE POWER OF OUR UNITED PRAYER AND THAT JESUS CHRIST IS LORD OF ALL!

LET THE WILL OF THE LORD GOD BE DONE. AMEN! SO BE IT.
HALLELUJAH! HALLELUJAH!HALLELUJAH! PRAISE THE MOST HIGH GOD, WE HAVE THE VICTORY IN THE NAME OF JESUS!!

LIFE!!! LIFE!!! LIFE!!! LIFE MORE ABUNDANTLY….

HALLELUJAH! PRAISES TO THE KING! THANK YOU LORD!

]]> By: Rebecca http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0917/pp-opening-is-delayed/#comment-412 Rebecca Wed, 26 Sep 2007 04:04:37 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0917/pp-opening-is-delayed/#comment-412 Why doesn't Planned Parenthood reach out to the community? Why don't they talk with the VA and other women's crisis centers? Oh, that's right...they are competition. They have no clue about our community and didn't want to. Why do they not have an open house for the area clergy and opposition and offer to educate them? Oh, that's right....they don't care. They don't care about the women either, only their power to generate revenue and they only care about the law as much as it leans to their business. It's a business....they are after money and they are up against a moral, ethical tidal wave. They chose to ignore it, this is what ensues. Oh, by the way pro choice people...the baby is NOT the problem, being irresponsible and unaccountable for your behavior is. How do we address that? Well, justifying it is not the first step. Validating it? No...not that either. Acknowledge that it's wrong and start there. Why doesn't Planned Parenthood reach out to the community? Why don't they talk with the VA and other women's crisis centers? Oh, that's right…they are competition. They have no clue about our community and didn't want to. Why do they not have an open house for the area clergy and opposition and offer to educate them? Oh, that's right….they don't care.

They don't care about the women either, only their power to generate revenue and they only care about the law as much as it leans to their business.

It's a business….they are after money and they are up against a moral, ethical tidal wave. They chose to ignore it, this is what ensues.

Oh, by the way pro choice people…the baby is NOT the problem, being irresponsible and unaccountable for your behavior is. How do we address that? Well, justifying it is not the first step. Validating it? No…not that either. Acknowledge that it's wrong and start there.

]]> By: Paul2 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0917/pp-opening-is-delayed/#comment-354 Paul2 Sun, 23 Sep 2007 05:41:22 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0917/pp-opening-is-delayed/#comment-354 Oh, and BTW Jason, since you had asked I should answer your questions and tell you a little about myself. 1)I do not use birth control. 2)Philosophically I believe ejaculation for any purpose other than procreation is equal to masturbation wether by yourself or with the help of a partner. But legally it need not be regulated since there is no life until conception. Paul Oh, and BTW Jason, since you had asked I should answer your questions and tell you a little about myself.
1)I do not use birth control.
2)Philosophically I believe ejaculation for any purpose other than procreation is equal to masturbation wether by yourself or with the help of a partner. But legally it need not be regulated since there is no life until conception.

Paul

]]> By: Paul2 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0917/pp-opening-is-delayed/#comment-351 Paul2 Sun, 23 Sep 2007 02:46:12 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0917/pp-opening-is-delayed/#comment-351 Jason, I believe listening to others and finding common ground is essential to enabling the "best" and most educated decisions to all sides. Lets start by trying to find some some common ground. Please read the short scenario below and let me know if you believe the "procedure" should be allowed. Recently Planned Parenthood went to the Supreme Court fighting to allow doctors to perform a procedure known as partial-birth abortion. The clinical description is to delievr babies feet first and outside the woman as far as the chest. Next slide a sccissors up the biabies spine until you feel the head. Grasp the head firmly while puncturing it with a scissors. Once the scissors is inside the head they open it fully to create as large a hole as possible when they pull the scirris out of the babies skull. Next stick a vaccuum in the babies head and suck it's brains out. Can we start with thecommon ground that begin by agreeing the above service should not be offered at Planned Parenthood, or anywhere else in the US. Thoughtfully yours, Paul2 Jason,
I believe listening to others and finding common ground is essential to enabling the "best" and most educated decisions to all sides.

Lets start by trying to find some some common ground. Please read the short scenario below and let me know if you believe the "procedure" should be allowed.

Recently Planned Parenthood went to the Supreme Court fighting to allow doctors to perform a procedure known as partial-birth abortion. The clinical description is to delievr babies feet first and outside the woman as far as the chest. Next slide a sccissors up the biabies spine until you feel the head. Grasp the head firmly while puncturing it with a scissors. Once the scissors is inside the head they open it fully to create as large a hole as possible when they pull the scirris out of the babies skull. Next stick a vaccuum in the babies head and suck it's brains out.

Can we start with thecommon ground that begin by agreeing the above service should not be offered at Planned Parenthood, or anywhere else in the US.

Thoughtfully yours,
Paul2

]]> By: steph http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0917/pp-opening-is-delayed/#comment-337 steph Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:59:11 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0917/pp-opening-is-delayed/#comment-337 well said jason. lets all commit to putting our energy towards something that would actually reduce the number of abortions. i have never had an unplanned pregnancy but then again, i was educated about how to prevent it and had ready access to birth control - things the majority of women seeking abortions did not have, illinois ranks 46th in access to contraceptives. most ppl on the pro-choice side feel strongly about working towards this goal and i would hope ppl on the pro-life side feel the same, so @net, how can you say there is no common ground?? well said jason. lets all commit to putting our energy towards something that would actually reduce the number of abortions. i have never had an unplanned pregnancy but then again, i was educated about how to prevent it and had ready access to birth control - things the majority of women seeking abortions did not have, illinois ranks 46th in access to contraceptives. most ppl on the pro-choice side feel strongly about working towards this goal and i would hope ppl on the pro-life side feel the same, so @net, how can you say there is no common ground??

]]> By: Net http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0917/pp-opening-is-delayed/#comment-272 Net Thu, 20 Sep 2007 03:36:12 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0917/pp-opening-is-delayed/#comment-272 Are any of you going to the Dirksen Building tomorrow for the court case? Are any of you going to the Dirksen Building tomorrow for the court case?

]]> By: Net http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0917/pp-opening-is-delayed/#comment-270 Net Thu, 20 Sep 2007 01:17:52 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0917/pp-opening-is-delayed/#comment-270 Well, Jason, I don't think anything I could say would be in any way enlightening. There is NO common ground between pro-life and pro-(leave open the avenue for)abortion. They are like oil and water. But thank you for your comments. I do appreciate reading how pro-choice people come to their conclusions. Well, Jason, I don't think anything I could say would be in any way enlightening. There is NO common ground between pro-life and pro-(leave open the avenue for)abortion. They are like oil and water. But thank you for your comments. I do appreciate reading how pro-choice people come to their conclusions.

]]> By: Jason http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0917/pp-opening-is-delayed/#comment-269 Jason Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:29:50 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0917/pp-opening-is-delayed/#comment-269 @Net "have you ever thought of not posting on a pro-life site because your ideas are not conducive to our beliefs?" As I keep saying, I'm not here to debate abortion but instead to find common ground and better solutions because neither side of the debate is "pro-abortion" and neither side benefits from bickering. "This is a nation that allows its mothers to kill their infants" but the numbers speak to the fact that whether it's allowed or not, it will continue. If you believe that a human is a human from the point of conception do you also believe St Thomas - "Therefore the ejaculation of sperm must be so ordained that there may follow from it both the begetting and the upbringing of offspring. It is clear from this that all ejaculation of sperm, produced in such a way that begetting cannot follow from it, is contrary to man's good. And if this is done deliberately, it is necessarily a sin"? It seems that life begins even before conception? Should US law regulate all ejaculation? You say that "there are more people than not that are self-centered and do not want to be tied down with an unwanted pregnancy" which puts you in the minority. Democracy is based on the needs and wants of the majority. As I stated, there are an average of 46 million abortions per year worldwide (26 legal, 20 illegal). I'll be the first to admit that this is a staggering and unfortunate statistic. But the "20 million illegal" number demonstrates that laws do not stop abortions. Even if you got your wish and there were no abortions worldwide, what then? 46 million unwanted babies? That's the approximate population of California and Illinois every year. No adoption infrastructure could support that amount of children not to mention the fact that no economy could support it and neither can the Earth. We would overpopulate in a matter of decades. Ask yourself what happens when all abortions are illegal. Which brings me back to my point. What can both sides find in common. Do you support birth control? If so, in what ways? If abortion is rampant and has been so for over 2000 years, isn't it more productive to address the root of the problem - unwanted pregnancy? @Net
"have you ever thought of not posting on a pro-life site because your ideas are not conducive to our beliefs?" As I keep saying, I'm not here to debate abortion but instead to find common ground and better solutions because neither side of the debate is "pro-abortion" and neither side benefits from bickering.

"This is a nation that allows its mothers to kill their infants" but the numbers speak to the fact that whether it's allowed or not, it will continue.

If you believe that a human is a human from the point of conception do you also believe St Thomas - "Therefore the ejaculation of sperm must be so ordained that there may follow from it both the begetting and the upbringing of offspring. It is clear from this that all ejaculation of sperm, produced in such a way that begetting cannot follow from it, is contrary to man's good. And if this is done deliberately, it is necessarily a sin"? It seems that life begins even before conception? Should US law regulate all ejaculation?

You say that "there are more people than not that are self-centered and do not want to be tied down with an unwanted pregnancy" which puts you in the minority. Democracy is based on the needs and wants of the majority.

As I stated, there are an average of 46 million abortions per year worldwide (26 legal, 20 illegal). I'll be the first to admit that this is a staggering and unfortunate statistic. But the "20 million illegal" number demonstrates that laws do not stop abortions. Even if you got your wish and there were no abortions worldwide, what then? 46 million unwanted babies? That's the approximate population of California and Illinois every year. No adoption infrastructure could support that amount of children not to mention the fact that no economy could support it and neither can the Earth. We would overpopulate in a matter of decades.

Ask yourself what happens when all abortions are illegal.

Which brings me back to my point. What can both sides find in common. Do you support birth control? If so, in what ways?

If abortion is rampant and has been so for over 2000 years, isn't it more productive to address the root of the problem - unwanted pregnancy?

]]> By: Renee http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0917/pp-opening-is-delayed/#comment-268 Renee Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:45:33 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0917/pp-opening-is-delayed/#comment-268 Jason, The idea of a human being the property of another and not afforded their own rights certainly applies to slavery, and the status of women at one time in this country, as well as to unborn children. Your "opinion" isn't the problem. My "opinion" doesn't matter either. The fact is that the socially powerful often deprive the weak of their rights. It has happened before, it is still happening, and those concerned with more than their own self interests have alway fought these injustices. We will continue this fight. Don't like it? Tell the mayor to get PP out of your neighborhood. Just as abortion is legal, so is protesting. Again, if you don't want it in your neighborhood, tell the mayor to get PP out. Jason,

The idea of a human being the property of another and not afforded their own rights certainly applies to slavery, and the status of women at one time in this country, as well as to unborn children. Your "opinion" isn't the problem. My "opinion" doesn't matter either. The fact is that the socially powerful often deprive the weak of their rights. It has happened before, it is still happening, and those concerned with more than their own self interests have alway fought these injustices. We will continue this fight.

Don't like it? Tell the mayor to get PP out of your neighborhood.

Just as abortion is legal, so is protesting. Again, if you don't want it in your neighborhood, tell the mayor to get PP out.

]]> By: Net http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0917/pp-opening-is-delayed/#comment-267 Net Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:46:48 +0000 http://familiesagainstplannedparenthood.org/blog/2007/0917/pp-opening-is-delayed/#comment-267 Annie ... when you're downing your favorite beverage and it is at the half-way point, do you say "my drink is half empty," or do you say "my drink is half full?" A pessimistic (and anti) view of children would be to say they are "noisy, smelly, and expensive." It doesn't do a whole lot of good for their self-esteem either. I personally like the "loving, fulfilling and rewarding" part you stated. My husband and I have four children. Like you, I know kids too. They are a gift from God and until people see that Planned Parenthood is destroying that gift, they won't be ready to support the removal of abortion entirely. I understand what you are saying by "Many thinking people who are undecided about supporting pro-life activities are turned off by such tactics," but it's always good for people to know off the bat the truth before getting involved in any type of movement and Planned Parenthood who ends pregnancies for troubled/anxious/hurt/attacked women ARE "anti-child." And I might add they are "anti-woman" too. It's great you are part of The Nurturing Network, Annie. Possibly you haven't been close enough to abortion to want to tell it like it is. That is good! Annie … when you're downing your favorite beverage and it is at the half-way point, do you say "my drink is half empty," or do you say "my drink is half full?" A pessimistic (and anti) view of children would be to say they are "noisy, smelly, and expensive." It doesn't do a whole lot of good for their self-esteem either. I personally like the "loving, fulfilling and rewarding" part you stated. My husband and I have four children. Like you, I know kids too. They are a gift from God and until people see that Planned Parenthood is destroying that gift, they won't be ready to support the removal of abortion entirely. I understand what you are saying by "Many thinking people who are undecided about supporting pro-life activities are turned off by such tactics," but it's always good for people to know off the bat the truth before getting involved in any type of movement and Planned Parenthood who ends pregnancies for troubled/anxious/hurt/attacked women ARE "anti-child." And I might add they are "anti-woman" too.

It's great you are part of The Nurturing Network, Annie. Possibly you haven't been close enough to abortion to want to tell it like it is. That is good!

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